| Title | : | Why U.S. executions are so expensive |
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“There also human beings”brWell to he on deathrow they had to do something incredibly inhumane to a unwilling personbrThere are innocent people yes but those are not common at allbrBeing humane to someone whos done other things which are incredibly inhumane to usually more than one victim Just weird showing humanity to a person who did something no human should think about even doing Comment from : @brockyay4414 |
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forgive me for my very extreme take but i don't think governments should be killing their citizens Comment from : @sethdrake7551 |
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Say for exampe, a man kills 40 innocent people Is he truly a human at that point? How can a person sit down with those victims' families and explain that he's human? Comment from : @Raines23 |
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The liberals trying to win when they've already lost Comment from : @fornogoodreason551 |
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So hypothetically What if the prosecutor and I are on the same page? Comment from : @Vi--ss7tt |
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This should be concerning This implies that we don’t do our due diligence when sending someone for life in prison Comment from : @tylersanders2388 |
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Also the injection isnt as “quick and painless” has they would have you believe experts have compared it too “being paralysed while fire is being poured into your veins” also because of this funny thing called the hippocratic oath the procedure cannot be performed by doctors so its often untrained prison staff injecting this horrific cocktail into people brOh and on top of that 4 of death row inmates are innocent Comment from : @keelysmash |
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Threat of the death penalty has been proven to lead to false confesions Some leading to the death penalty and are almost impossible to apeal Comment from : @EllRiver |
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Okay but- what if we didn't care if we got the right guy, didn't do all this due diligence, and just outright violated people's civil rights because we realized a critical mass of the population wants blood more than justice? Comment from : @BlizzardofOze |
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Florida lawmakers passed legislation this Thursday (February 132025) that will make the death sentence MANDATORY for undocumented immigrants convicted of a capital crime in the state Comment from : @TheSpecholder |
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Isn't it even more expensive to house an inmate for decades? Comment from : @allanjeffries6937 |
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I can't speak for Americans here but if the death penalty is so expensive and tedious (Not to mention the potential/actual abuse of such a system), why not abolished it? It's mostly likely cheaper and fair to give a life sentence instead Comment from : @JakeBeaudry |
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So its crazy expensive, often done to innocent people, and uses inhumane and dangerous methods Plus its ineffective as a deterrent So why exactly do we still do it? Comment from : @berylredburrow__8810 |
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The fact that there is no way to be 100 certain a person is actually guilty, the systemic racism in our justice system and the flawed field of forensic science are just like 3 reasons of 100 I can think of that make me not believe in the death penalty before it costs money even pops in my head I get this argument, because it’s a counter to an argument in support, but we’re still dehumanizing people Our system doesn’t work it just makes the most privileged of us feel better Comment from : @emerson23946 |
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And as evidenced in a number of cases in recent memory They still get it wrong and still execute the wrong person far too often Comment from : @TheDark1903 |
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About 5 of death row inmates are innocent too Comment from : @adamtaylor106 |
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On one hand, there's a man who killed a family of five and desecrated their cadavers On the other hand, he might not have actually done that Comment from : @nef36 |
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people have been sentenced to death with:brwitnesses implicating thembra confessionbrdna evidencebrbronly for it to be found that they were innocent and that there was severe mishandling of the case/forced confessions So you can spend all that money, go through all that time, and still murder an innocent person for no reason Comment from : @tobiasnicholls9837 |
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Oh you charge more for exper witness when death penalty is on the tabel? I hope nothing happens to your license or practice Comment from : @marinescuandrei6986 |
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When 4 of the people ever put to death have been innocent in the US, it tells of your morals if you want the death penalty to be used Comment from : @deadlyknights1119 |
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Oh hell nah the US finna abolish the death penalty not because of morality but because of costs 💀 Comment from : @DerToasti |
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So what you're saying is, is that we should hasten the process fully? Comment from : @wwheezer |
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"They're more than just a price tag, they're a human being" brbrI'm pretty sure that after you do something deserving of the death penalty, you don't get to use that defense anymore Comment from : @theinvisiblegentleman1142 |
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“Isn’t this about justice” while talking about the death penalty Utterly disgraceful Comment from : @sebastionherring4196 |
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Imagine trusting the government enough to give them the power to kill their own people Comment from : @Ruud_Brouwer |
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Some of these people have given up their humanity to such an extent that calling them human is laughable at best Comment from : @joshuatree9358 |
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In a death penalty case, any juror who opposes the death penalty will be excluded from the jury, even though that's not normally a requirement for jurors in a criminal trial This tends to weed out people who are less likely to take the state at their word, meaning that the prosecutor's decision to seek the death penalty can actually make it much more likely that you get convicted Comment from : @bobboulden |
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I mean, the word human being really should be subjective when you think about what some of the worst people out there have done to innocent children Comment from : @nowsmile790 |
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Are you out here copying a news organization 😭🙏 Comment from : @IsaacDiaz9021 |
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The death penalty only serves to 2 purposes, creating fear of its use and comforting the victim and those related to them I don’t want the fear of death hung over me I dont trust the government with that power I understand the idea of giving comfort and closure to the victims, but there are a lot of studies that challenge the premise The simple fact is that the death penalty does little more than create fear in those underthreat of it, which what do you know is the poor and disenfranchised, and provide a false sense of justification and comfort to some unrealated people Comment from : @whyyaskkwhyy |
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The death penalty is totally unchristian Comment from : @Rex20231 |
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And sometimes a lawyer on a case may have 2 or 3 clients his entire career for the length of these appeals Comment from : @80aj |
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A life sentence can still be lifted after the fact, if new evidence comes to lightbrthe death penalty is finalbrThis means you need a higher standard of proof, which costs extra moneybrbryou're not looking for "beyond reasonable doubt" anymore your kinda looking for "for sure guilty" Comment from : @heylolp9 |
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Are the majority of these costs not the same, regardless of whether the prosecutor seeks the death penalty over life imprisonment? Comment from : @lordknight330 |
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The death penalty has failed as soon as the first innocent person in sentenced to it Comment from : @snobjorn1232 |
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On the one hand I hate my taxes being raised, on the other hand, if someone comes around and commits crimes like John Wayne Gacy they really shouldn’t be around Comment from : @isaiahbraddock |
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I beg to differ, if you're facing the death penalty, arguably you're not a human being Comment from : @chrischristensen7288 |
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What I find crazy is that a death penalty takes so long to come to its conclusion You could start your lawyer career at the time of the crime, wait a few years for the trial to start, and be getting ready to retire when they finally give him the lethal injectionbrThe death penalty is still LWOP, just with a more final ending rather than dying of old age Comment from : @benwagner5089 |
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Respectfully, a life sentence is really not morally better It’s a death sentence in disguise, with a worse appeals processbrbrAccording to DPI, roughly 41 of death row inmates are innocent We don’t even have that narrow an estimate for the 1-154 of life sentences predicted to be wrongful convictions Even assuming an average 82, that’s twice as many wrongful life sentences as wrongful death sentencesbrbrAdd to that life sentences don’t get an automatic appeal, and receive less attention, representation and support than death sentence appeals You’re just consigning more innocent people to wasted years of their lives, if not their whole lives Comment from : @GGBlaster |
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They should reduce the appeal nonsense The minute death row is removed, they will LWOP the new death penalty It probably nets saving money by forcing inmates to the plea table when they want the inmate to get a LWOP sentence Comment from : @dexterlazar2040 |
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This kind of liberalism is giving 2020 Comment from : @mattc6018 |
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So they are admitting they get a lot of wrong people convicted by putting more effort into getting this rightbrAnd they still get it wrong sometimes anyways Comment from : @yodxxx1 |
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The concept of executions in 2025 is so gross Comment from : @idk-sy3iu |
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Funding to roads and bridges were cut because why do you need to give a fuck about roads and bridges when all your supporters have private jets Comment from : @Voxcast07 |
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Honestly, I think being held in an American prison is probably worse than being killed Like unless you’re killing method is extremely painful, which would count as cruel and unusual punishment It does not match with the psychological torture of the American prison system Comment from : @JuliaHadden |
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“Shouldn’t this be about justice and not ho much something costs” yes if the law was applied to rich people but it’s not The Sacklers should be in jail Comment from : @yolo_burrito |
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The fact that some barbaric countries still have the death penalty sickens me Comment from : @TheSteve_1992 |
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You don't normally go on death row for being a good person Comment from : @tellg0t090 |
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So Trump and Elon are human beings Comment from : @brandonlimbo7740 |
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I can’t support government sanctioned murder Comment from : @theonionqueen3519 |
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I like how the expert opinions cost morebrbr"It would be wrong of me to offer testimony that could lead to someone's deathbrbrbrbrfor such a low price" Comment from : @weneedaladder8384 |
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Human beings who need to face justice through due process Comment from : @matthewstewart6024 |
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Are death penalty prosecutions genuinely more expensive than a life without parole prosecution? Comment from : @andrewjgrimm |
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Yet they've been forcing them through on disputed cases this last year Not for justice, just shock and awe Comment from : @whytheflick |
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The take away its cheaper to keep an innocent man locked up for 25 years than it is to unalive one there is also a higher standard so its easier to lock up an innocent if you dont go for dp Hmmm maybe the strickt standard should be used for all cases not just one for dp Comment from : @lstchance87 |
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You lost me at the last part Comment from : @briandiaz2814 |
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It's insane how many people keep arguing for death penalty even when it’s pointed out just how many innocent people have been executed Like “it’s only a small percentage” is not the argument you think it is It just tells me you think innocent people dying is fine as long as you get to satisfy your bloodlust People aren’t numbers, each one of those “statistical unlikelihoods” was a real living breathing person with a life and a future that were taken away from them Comment from : @emma-kati |
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I feel like the cost going up is a method of discouraging it, it certainly didn't cost that much in many historical states Comment from : @mrDjuroman |
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Be true pro life, say no to the death penalty Comment from : @duckhuntdynasty6562 |
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death penalty is literally just state sponsored revenge killings, which functionally does absolutely nothing to deter crime and it certainly does not make what the perpetrator did any less bad (i mean the whole justice system is horrifically flawed but i digress) and i cannot believe people actually support it it's just pettiness and americans are so obsessed with punishment and deserving Comment from : @zazhands8866 |
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All your tax money goes into killing people That's why the US infrastructure is so bad Comment from : @ironiccookies2320 |
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The thing that always troubles me about this argument is it implicitly says that it's okay to subject people to life in prison without being equally sure that they actually did it Comment from : @hazeltrouble2673 |
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I like the county official lookbrbrSeems familiar, and friendly Comment from : @ComfortableFetus |
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Tbh I'm starting to wonder about voluntary death penalty Like, life in prison sounds like it could be worse for some people, so if they've been sentenced to life (or anything really) I think they should have the choice to request death instead No need for extensive tests or proof if it's just the person's choice! Comment from : @DreamtaleEnjoyer |
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Ok if your justification is you gotta make sure you got the right person, that’s the same for life in prison too! Comment from : @XD152awesomeness |
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State sanctioned murder is still murder Comment from : @ericjones3785 |
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why is the government in the killing business Comment from : @RyanLynch1 |
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Honestly if I was falsely accused of murder I might rather have the prosecutor seek the death penalty since it would cause much more attention to he paid to the case improving the chances of acquittal Comment from : @timothy705 |
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“They’re human beings”brExcept when they run health insurance companies apparently Comment from : @zachgoldwater957 |
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I’m a little confused about a few of these More expensive defense attorneys make sense But why expert witnesses? Why do they cost more than a life sentence trial? And why would the appeals process cost more? Comment from : @classarank7youtubeherokeyb63 |
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Idiot liberals Comment from : @Scott-bz4pm |
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The death penalty has never been about justice It's about bloodlust If it was about justice, the prosecution would be just as happy with a life sentence with no chance of parole Comment from : @mitchells2003 |
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"Since 1990, at least 11 countries have executed offenders who were minors (under the age of 18 or 21) at the time the crime was committed, which is a breach of the Convention on the Rights of the Child, ratified by all countries but the United States These are China, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Iran, Nigeria, Pakistan, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, South Sudan, Sudan, the United States, and Yemen In the United States, this ended in 2005 with the Supreme Court case Roper v Simmons, in Nigeria in 2015 by law,and in Saudi Arabia in 2020 by royal decree"brbrLook at the company you keep, USA Comment from : @user-bw4jm1bv1i |
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The death penalty is not justice We can never be sure that we are not killing people for reasons other than the crime being committed Justice is about truth and not finality The death penalty is a theater of vengeance that reminds of the power of the state to destroy us when they see fit Why do we still have this collective blood lust? Comment from : @jarodh-m6099 |
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Also, I know the US moves to the beat of its own drum, but what other countries still have the death penalty? Comment from : @user-bw4jm1bv1i |
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Yeah so the problem is if you spend less time and money you'll kill more innocent people which is bad Comment from : @Elliotsurvives |
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Should abolish it tbh Just watch "Dancer in the Dark" with Björk, guys That will give you all you need to know about that 😂 Comment from : @SANDEDFACELESS69 |
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Someone needs to check this lil boys hard drive he's got a funny look to him Comment from : @Phycheeeee |
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Finally an explanation for why death penalty is more expensive than life in prison Comment from : @silly-kitty3272 |
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So thats the real reason they started getting rid of capital pumishment Comment from : @angel-nv7jk |
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Police, prosecutors, judges, and prison staff don't care about the human beings part, or about the getting the right person part Comment from : @DirtyDog97 |
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Honest question: are there any studies that compare the average cost of a death sentence (court proceedings, death row, the execution itself, plus amortized compensation for wrongful executions) to the average cost of a life sentence (court proceedings, jail costs, plus amortized compensation for wrongful sentencing)? Comment from : @jeslinmx22 |
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I oppose the death penalty from an ethical standpoint already, but like most things in American political conversation, it is better to explain the reasons not to something with money as opposed to ethics Comment from : @GeeTee1 |
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Why does it seem like cases of "ah you're on clear hd video with your face shown and reinforcing circumstantial evidence murdering this person" or similar never get the death penalty? Comment from : @seagie382 |
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“It’s not about the money it’s about justice, remember they’re human beings” did we just forget what kind of “human beings” are on death row, and what they’ve done to other And remember, those people were just human beings too Comment from : @Wisconsinprepper710 |
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This just tells me the real problem is there aren't all those safety mechanisms in a life in prison trial Someone on trial with a possible punishment of life in prison should also get the same additional lawyers and appeals This isn't an argument against the death penalty; it is an argument for it The death penalty isn't overly expensive—other trials are overly laissez-faire Comment from : @zeroone8800 |
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It’s not a matter of if you think some people deserve to die, it’s a matter of do you think the government is competent enough to make that call? Comment from : @superjj1850 |
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