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Chunking: the secret to fluency?

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The students in France anecdote is extremely illuminating I'm betting they did not 'acquire' their 'chunks' from being in classes but in exposure to the language outside of class brbrI relate this to my own experience, having spent a couple of semesters learning French at a university in Quebec city in my long-ago youth I definitely learned some from the classes, but my most distinct recollections are of learning 'chunks' outside of class, usually in conversation within small social groups of English and French-speaking students I also noticed that, in converstion, vocabulary used is not so extensive as one might think, but that meaning is often conveyed via such 'chunks'
Comment from : @briandriscoll1480

So I’ve been uploading parts of audiobooks to LingQ It generates the text Is getting the ebook necessary?
Comment from : @spectator-o8h

Lmao my guy literally spent 7 mins only to promote a product Love the hustle
Comment from : @sithius99

Hi, I‘ am using LINGQ to learn english When I tried to Import this video, it came out with arabic subtitles What‘s to do?brGreatings from germany!
Comment from : @birgitp7223

3:07
Comment from : @Reines3

Teşekkürler! Şarkıların sözlerini dinlemenizi öneririm Ben İngilizce öğrenirken çok yararını görmüştüm Barış Manço, Birsen Tezer, Bülent Ortaçgil, Sezen Aksu, MFÖ gibi sanatçılar söz bakımından çok iyiler
Comment from : @silentbullet2023

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Comment from : @paulaandreafernandezchavez1132

Could anyone give me some useful and popular examples of Chunks in --separately: English, French, Spanish and German I have found none here Too me this video is too theoretical and therefore not helpful at all
Comment from : @bozenasawa3490

Thank you Very insteresting ideas and examples Turkish verbs? I'm still learning to understand them when I see them in LIngQ I'll leave saying them to you, at least for now
Comment from : @tedc9682

I am 6 years old I am from India I want to talk to you on Google meet app i like your video
Comment from : @Englishwithbaby

Seu canal está sendo minha salvação ❤❤❤❤
Comment from : @coelhoazul6493

Fluency is beyond me! I speak slowly in my native language And in a foreign language I am really slow
Comment from : @lucyfromsiberia

Speaking is difficult in a foreign language
Comment from : @Salah_-_Uddin

I find learning languages in chunks really useful It helps you really speak the language and not translate it in your head Great video 😊
Comment from : @siasea_lang

Thanks
Comment from : @satchycollins3985

that picture of the Portuguese phrase book @ 1:34, was that your book? if so, do you have the name? thanks!
Comment from : @manfrommars340

Hi Steve, one question that I've been wanting to ask you for some time Acquiring languages is great, but what is your method for maintaining them alive afterwards? My own experience of it is that the more languages I learn, the more time I have to spend doing maintenance to make sure I don't forget them It seems to me that the result is that at some point more time will be spent on maintenance than on learning All the more as, in fact, it is always possible to continue learning a lot of stuff in the languages I already master brIs there something I'm doing the wrong way?
Comment from : @MrBrunoMi

Great advice for us language learners out here
Comment from : @mervyncawley6795

As I slowly aquire more of my target language, I see the importance of learning short phrases or "chunks" Because just looking up a definition of a word won't do any good to help you understand what it means in a particular phrase The definition of many words will mean something other than it's definition when translated by itself, or it will have no meaning at all when you translate the phrase word by word In Spanish "nos vemos" usually means "see you", but "nos vemos con freqcuencia obligado" means "we are often forced" (at least in the context of what I am reading) There's no way I would have gotten that meaning by translating it word for word
Comment from : @originaldanman

a lot of linguists now believe our brains conceptualise of language as a system of chunks (and constructions) rather than an algebraic system of grammar, so it makes a lot of sense to learn this way
Comment from : @benwoodward

I like this video It wouldn't take much effort to perform statistical analysis/machine learning on a text to pull from it words that commonly appear together - chunks
Comment from : @tommyhuffman7499

I thank you for your videobrI want to have fun and I may not be at lightening speed right now but I do diversity of reading and listening "all the while, enjoying my language learning" I totally resonate with your opinions
Comment from : @spinnettdesigns

I have no idea whether blearning/b chunks is effective, but I am quite certain that practicing pronunciation by repeating chunks is pretty much the only way to acquire effective and natural speech
Comment from : @EdwardLindon

I started learning Polish by mastering its complex grammar and memorizing a couple thousand words in a few months I could barely understand a thing until I was immersed for a couple years in "chunk phrases" living with a Polish spouse I guess what I'm saying is that chunking unlocked the language treasure chest that I'd already filled with the grammar and vocabularybrbrAlso, I've spent years studying colloquial Arabic part-time and reached intermediate stage using mostly Krashen's acquisition methods I can speak pretty well BUT my listening needs improvement So in a reversal of the normal learning pattern I'm enlisting grammar late in the game to improve my listening since Arabic is based on root words that are altered slightly to form new but related meanings Identifying the roots helps identify the meaning, even in conversation
Comment from : @jtee5957

One of the first things I noticed when I started using Lingq sentence mode was groups of words together that had a slightly different meaning than the individual words, ie chunks So I started making links for the chunks It’s a great feature
Comment from : @peterwright837

What about using flashcards to get familiar with chunks, in addition to comprehensible input? that may speed up the process
Comment from : @LanguageMaus

Learning Turkish right now, I don't think chunking is very helpful with Turkish and studying grammar is really important especially if it is your first agglutinative language If you cannot identify verbs ( most importantly but this is also true for other word forms) and the various suffixes you're lost It is only with phrases and sayings that the chunking worksbrÖğrenmede iyi şanslar!🎉
Comment from : @squaretriangle9208

This makes a lot of sense If you pay attention to English speakers, especially those with a small or limited vocabulary, it's easier to decipher the chunks than with a well-spoken person with a sophisticated vocabulary
Comment from : @FranG1214

this man is nothing if not consistent in his message
Comment from : @figgettit

I've never liked the term "chunks" It reminds me of vomit These groups of words are so common that you learn them naturally with comprehensible input
Comment from : @tocinoamericano

How do you upload audiobooks or books into LingQ?
Comment from : @DavidEng

شكون دخل يتعلم 😂
Comment from : @AhmedHayous

Good points here I've been working on Arabic for about 6 months now, and I'm certain I've learned more from watching the news and documentaries than I have from all the textbooks so far, though I do refer to those for grammar and vocab And learning new alphabets is an additional hurdle, of course br brI also used daily planners to memorize days of the week, month names, and numbers, I just write those below the English day names every month until it starts to stick But in general, listening to things has helped me progress faster in understanding things than just going through grammar books and only watching videos teaching Arabic, partly because of (as Krashen says) I can pick out content I'm interested in, and I get more words in different contexts and chunks when it's people speaking naturally and at length
Comment from : @ancientromewithamy

Why will LingQ no longer input videos from youtube even though they have subtitles? Please fix
Comment from : @wesleyoverton1145

I’m also a big Krashen fan and input has got me through DELF B1 in French, but I’ve gotten tired of not really having a grip on verb conjugations and have recently been using Anki to memorize all the conjugations that I feel I need I’m tackling one verb at a time, but learning present, simple future, conditional, subjunctive, simple past, imparfait, and imperative, as well as the past and present participles I really felt like it was time to learn these conjugations for the most common verbs and it’s already helping my reading and oral production I live in France and being able to produce the right verb changes the way French natives look at me It’s great What prompted this comment was your remark about the massive input required to learn a lot of chunks I came to the same conclusion about verb conjugations Yes, eventually I might read enough French to acquire enough conjugations to become fluent, (I currently read about a million words of French a year (thank you LingQ for that data) but just sitting down and memorizing a bunch will get me there quicker, I hope! It only takes a few minutes a day, but it’s a long term project I figure it will take about 6 months to cover the most important irregulars, and the most important conjugation patterns Hopefully after that, I will be able to make intelligent guesses about the other 10,000 verbs! Whatever’s fun, right?
Comment from : @johnalmberg7512

I actually haven't heard of chunking before, interesting to know
Comment from : @Oler-yx7xj

Krashen's theory is outdated and untenable — you need only open an SLA textbook to be convinced of it
Comment from : @redstorm474

I had no idea Lingq had the option to save entire phrases Thanks for the info Steve :D
Comment from : @atrumluminarium

Have you ever tried to get your IQ checked ???brYou seem very high IQ, 135-145
Comment from : @juliuscaesar1573

You said you listen to some audio service on internet and (as I understood it) you "automatically" get the e-book I have been listening to storytel for Finnish for a while now and I never get the e-book So there is nothing to import into lingq Besides, I would like the audio as well Could you elaborate on how to do this?
Comment from : @AJBonnema

Very interesting video Thanks I have been working through various YouTube video stories and the mini stories and I do have quite a few known words However I feel that I am just learning odd words rather than connecting them together From what you say, am I correct in thinking that there is benefit in listening to longer pieces as well as going through the texts sentence by sentence?
Comment from : @stepheng9607

Do you guys always use bilingual or monolingual dictionaries?
Comment from : @fersay777

👍
Comment from : @EnglishVid2

I think the most valuable method in learning a language is by immersion and reading, focusing mainly on vocabulary It works for me Thank you, I look up to you in my multilingual journey
Comment from : @TamaonYT

It would have been nice to have some concrete examples of ‘chunks’
Comment from : @tahall5646

Thank you for your insight I would like some examples that you found by"chunking"
Comment from : @draugami

Learning Pre fabricated phrases feel so formulaic and robotic The beauty of learning languages is finding new ways to express yourself and it feels so hard to "feel expressed" if we speak in pre-approved, pre-determined chunks Maybe it ends up happening naturally anyway but doing it purposefully feels so unappetizing
Comment from : @abbylafey