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Apakah Membaca Musik Penting untuk Belajar Musik Jazz?

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Si quieres ser buen músico, aprender a leer es básico,les guste o no a los demás
Comment from : @virtual_guitar_and_bass

no
Comment from : @AerosolKid95

This statement "Got tabs" 😂🤧brWhat most of us actually do
Comment from : @buwovwitega3723

An aspiring professional musician needs as many tools as possible Reading music is one of those tools As far as singing along with scales, an excellent idea! What I have done in the past is play a major scale from the tonic, while singing it from the third, which is a natural harmony With a little practice, one can do this from a fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh and even a second Obviously some of those sound a bit weird, but it does teach your ear what the different intervals sound like Also helps if you're ever asked to sing harmony Anyhow, another great lesson from you Jens I have learned a lot from watching your videos, and I thank you for the effort you put into it
Comment from : @throckmortensnivel2850

I just stared to learn sight-reading few months ago It was actually easier than I thought, and I have a lot of fun doing it I think it is a lot easier for me to connect my fretboard to the actual note I was playing while I was sight-reading I felt like I am no longer playing patterns but actually notes
Comment from : @bilaerbilaer2135

Note score with guitar pro with keyboard visual Thats my choice
Comment from : @arifturgan

I have acquired some basic reading in the last 6 months It doesn’t improve me in a musical sense, but it does improve analysis of songs You see melodic patterns and rhythm a lot clearer This in combination with tabs is awesome Tabs alone don’t cut it Standard notation alone frustrates me as well as I’m still slow and is often very complex to translate to guitar as opposed to piano Both is perfect
Comment from : @tomm5023

I grew up in the era of the Beatles and like them I had no music education basically because in inner city Liverpool just after the war no one had money for music lessons The Beatles got on a tram to north Liverpool to learn Ab from some dude who knew that chord Over the years I some how taught myself to read the music for Guitar Bass and keyboard I dont read the dots I just read the printed chords such as Eb or Gm and thats more than enough for me to play any tune on Guitar Bass or Keyboard I dont do Jazz noodling but I can play Jazz chord arrangements Learn the music as it cuts down on rehearsal time it took a lot of time for me to learn every chord for guitar and keyboard but now its just no effort I am still learning the bass and its still gives me a lot of enjoyment I remember a time that if you could read music that would automatically disbar you from joining a band as the general consensus was you would have no originality Happy days learn music it is a big help,
Comment from : @Guitar6ty

The annoying thing about guitar for me (as opposed to piano or clarinet) is the more accidentals in the key signature, the harder it gets on guitar
Comment from : @BigBlackBe4r

I hope someday I will unlocked my music jazz by sight reading
Comment from : @m3kuro9sk39

The constant images cracking me up are just wonderful Thank you
Comment from : @the1shrubbery

If you can read music, you can take an unknown song and get it down in your head and translated into sound!
Comment from : @edjackson4986

Good lesson Jens Been practicing my reading again these last months, the struggle is real
Comment from : @dannicholas1

I know he wasn't a guitar player, but apparently Franz List could sight read 'touplets within touplets', the like of which would have scared Frank Zappa I'm not the best reader, but I've always found it useful The more you learn, the more you know Hopefully
Comment from : @winstonsmith8240

Great shirt
Comment from : @bentleycharles779

Reading music has nothing to do with creating musicbut it is still a plus
Comment from : @normt6226

Paco de Lucía could not read music either Probably the best flamenco talent ever
Comment from : @javilobaton

People missinterpret what guthrie says He says that he never played with a metronome but rather spent so much time playing songs and using drum machines
Comment from : @BrunoGarciaMusic

Great video! I actually met Holdsworth when I was a student in music collegebrMe: Can you read music?brAH: nobrMe: do you know what ii V I is?brAH: of coursebrLol!brRIP Allan
Comment from : @anthonysilva5312

after 2 years of learning by ear i can really easily pick up solo linessolo jazz guitar/harmony is still not as fast as i want it to be but i can pick anything upthe problem is my soloing still sucks i do the same pat martino shtick over and over i need to unlearn it somehow
Comment from : @stefanmiladinovic9020

Oh I need a poster of that
Comment from : @onceuponascale

Saint Pass! 😆 so it is true;)
Comment from : @onceuponascale

That saint pass image is becoming my wallpaper rn🤩
Comment from : @denizcoskun8681

Reading groups of notes/words is called "chunking" and it's part of why standard notation works so well
Comment from : @stephenshoihet2590

I'm an older learner , it's my nature that I have to learn music theory I came from 47 years in the trades , we have our language Music has it's language , i started with group singing and could slide by with sight reading But once I began to learn to to play that's a whole different game for me Joe Pass and others have a gift I will never have So I've just taken a long time to say some have a great gift others have to work through it For me , wish I started earlier it's become a true joy
Comment from : @michaelnelson7572

Sight reading isn't really important unless you are playing in an orchestral setting But everybody should be able to decipher sheet music Just to make sure you got the notes right
Comment from : @JimmyDeLocke

If you want to be a player, you've got to play, it's simple, don't over think it
Comment from : @jroc2201

But, they all had amazing musical ears So, they constructed their own interpretation of the harmonic, rhythmic & melodic language, as did Holdsworth!brbrWhich, I would argue, probably takes more "work" than learning the traditional system But to them, it was never work I think the benefits of reading & theory are never focused on, as much as the amount of "work" you have to do
Comment from : @tonisiret5557

When I improvise on a song I anticipate what the note on the next string below or above is going to be I never memorized every note on the board or memorized any modes
Comment from : @Strings-jg2to

You know it's going to be a great video when Uncle Pecos is in the intro
Comment from : @Gator198l

Joe Pass could read music , just not very well according to him He was the guitarist on the Merv Griffin show for a few years so he probably read good enough to hang on to that gig I like your videos Good solid info Thanks a bunch and I look forward to the next one
Comment from : @MrMewsique

YES
Comment from : @globalnomad4074

Lars you are great Thank you
Comment from : @joeinterrante7873

Either ways I am 😞…but I could sing harmonize in 3 parts I notice it first when I was in 6th grade in las Islas Filipinas ca 60 y in my adult lives I picked up some simple tasks as singing on piano harp ukuleles organ even guitar apps on iPhone y sing just standard melodies…I was to learn formal music in 5th y got lost 😞 lol…my kid did piano in the 90’s y two years my other kid started the classical guitar as extra curricular y computer engineering y Languages in computer…y stopped so all the tools that I collected mostly are sitting in my casita…they are all adults but still love music y dance formal dance…btw I love all genres of sound …I am an ear dude very sharp my timing is okay y stillis listening to thi s guru(: btw I learned English by singing since I was a baby in the island y sing…my dad did voice culture…my cuz are into conservatory of music y etc…
Comment from : @startreker8591

Joe Pass: "got tabs?"!!!!🤣😂🤣😂🤣brbrJoke of the day award goes to Jen's! 👏👏👏👏👏
Comment from : @Gregorypeckory

Can you imagine trying to learn English without also trying to read? Unless you have a perfect memory, that would be ridiculous Moreover, you would miss the root words and derivations the teachers the meanings to things and the mechanics of things Amen to Mr Larson
Comment from : @HugCharton

I like to see the sheet music The notes make a shape or curve
Comment from : @christophervaca7116

Jens, I’m not going to say you are a consistent scold Not going there
Comment from : @mikeviall811

Spot on … I concur (for what it’s worth) When you look at the tabs you don’t get musical information
Comment from : @dougtube2006

I think that being able to read is essential if you want to play jazz at a decent level, while being able to sight-read can be optional However, as a pro, sight-reading opens up many more possibilities in terms of work
Comment from : @novembrinewaltz90

Another great video Wish I had these videos when I was a kid Thanks Jens!
Comment from : @gregbear123

That’s nonsense! When I wake up the next morning from only having 2 meals the previous day lunch and dinner, I wake up starving and can’t help cook up some eggs, bacon and avo on some sour dough Or have a huge bowl of Oats Didn’t work for me
Comment from : @eliaspap8708

uptown girl in the set-list?!? i just threw up in my mouth
Comment from : @rillloudmother

as they used to say on TV: reading is fun to mental
Comment from : @rillloudmother

I'm a guitar player, but I played saxophone all through elementary and high school Although I really don't play sax much anymore, I will say that I have never felt as comfortable reading for guitar as I have for saxophone I could more or less be on autopilot mode if I was playing something not too hard, but with guitar I find I always have to be really focused
Comment from : @noahv8671

The whole reading as a word rather than letters really resonated with me even if jazz still isn't my thing and blues is king I feel like I've delved into something deeper due to metal I don't use scales or notes I fit melodies and solos to different progressions But You really get into what you should be focusing on rather than pointing to something specific which is refreshing
Comment from : @theisaackielofproject3973

STUPID QUESTION I hear guitarists ask this question all the time It's the same ask asking do I have to read a language or can I get by with only conversation? Illitereacy is NOT ACCEPTABLE !!!
Comment from : @victorparedes4863

When I taught guitarists at Seattle University, I met a lot of guitarists players who could not read, and that held them back I had to teach them how to read quickly and at a decent level so they could get the most out of their music classes I still hear from those students from time to time, and they thank me for teaching them to read because it opened a lot of doors for them (Teaching guitarists to read is not an easy job!) Helping guitarists gain solid reading skills is still a cornerstone of my teaching practice, and I use "The Guitar Lesson Companion, Volume One" because it's built for students who are taking lessons and it's got plenty of good sounding exercises to actually work Thanks for all you do here, it's much appreciated!
Comment from : @leadcatpress

Reading music also allows you to discover beautiful songs you've never heard This element of surprise is a source of great delight
Comment from : @andrewwestaway5508

You play to your strengths , I “learnt” by ear when I turned pro I consolidated what I already had by learning theory and learning to to read charts and extrapolate modal / scale choicesbrbrThis naturally led to reading notation There is no wrong or right way , we all learn differently , for me starting with notation would likely have meant I’d never have continued playing, do what you enjoy but have the awareness and discipline to know when to work on the things you don’t enjoy
Comment from : @JJHurst

It worked for Wes Montgomery brTherefore, it will work for me brbrThere’s some rock-solid logic right there
Comment from : @elmike-o5290

I'm kind of nerdier than most beginners in a sense that I'm interested in understanding all the theories and learning to be able to describe the notes I hear in my head in terms of chords and scales, but I've always been intimidated by the fact that with guitars I can play the same notes in multiple positions, and the idea that I should learn how to use the entirety of the neck brbrI'm working on blindly following (as in practicing a page or two of) the modern method for guitar these days; I'm only 30 or so pages in but I'm already much better at reading than I ever was in my previous guitar playing
Comment from : @leerickss

Wow just loved your video editing style now so up to date! Great job larsen!🔥👍👍👍
Comment from : @DickenKrr

Production level is Oscar worthy Great lesson!
Comment from : @done1771-n8b

Great, great video
Comment from : @markchristopher4165

This was great that Saint Joe Pass was funny as hell
Comment from : @Wyrdo999

We don't read letters we read words Wonderful analogy, nice piece! B-)
Comment from : @dkwvt13

Very interesting I've played guitar for decades, however I began learning jazz about 15 years ago As I progressed, I found the need to read music, particularly to learn solos It's tedious but essential and still I have a quite decent ear But to get it right, I think you must readunless you're Joe Pass, RIP
Comment from : @eohippusone

Great advise I completely agree with you
Comment from : @tonyal-amin4056

Guitar was my first instrument and I do not have perfect pitch so learning music theory and notation was the only way to make sense of it all My ear is okay, but I definitely don’t rely on it 100
Comment from : @anonamos8129

I love that you like reading music! Growing up I HAD to read music and hated itnow I almost rely on it to a faultI just like trying to experience everything music has to offer and pick and choose my favorites which Im guessing,will define me as a player? As old as I am I should be defined by now
Comment from : @discountmusician8951

Excellent points raised here Thanks
Comment from : @fourthofseven

Hey Jens, as in many other of your videos a nice to watch great help for finding my individual tools for making jazz guitar music! In addition I like your thoughts about that there is not ONE way to do this but that everyone has to find out his best working ressourses Best wishes from Michael (taking a break for some weeks during my holiday far from my home in Berlin without having a guitar with me)
Comment from : @MichaelBerlin

I learned to read music early on It was like learning to read my spoken language - very useful Did it make me a great orator or singer - no The same is true for drawing and painting You can read all the books you like about cooking, but will it make you a great Chef? This it true for most activities, including music Learning by reading about things and learning by doing things are vastly different "Doing" is essential, and "reading" is helpful Innate talent can be nurtured or quashed by learning how other people do and think about things Going down the same well-worn path used by others will usually lead to the same destination If music is about discovery, it helps to be a rebel
Comment from : @picksalot1

And intervals, ive had many students who do not know a min 2nd or aug4th/dim5th, or half dim and full dim
Comment from : @christophertaylor9417

Cmaj7b5
Comment from : @christophertaylor9417

I think accidentals are the hardest to teach a student, watts the difference between a Cmaj7#11 and a Cmajb5
Comment from : @christophertaylor9417

Thank you sir, i love your vids,
Comment from : @christophertaylor9417

Im classically trained and I ran into the same challenge, so i explored every aspect of our 6 string instrument and found that a classic guitar, an acoustic guitar and an electric guitar need to be approached differently
Comment from : @christophertaylor9417

Muzak is ambiguous, but i learned theory and it opened up a beautiful magical world of color
Comment from : @christophertaylor9417

Reading to hear the noteThis is such an amazing insight Great video I really like the Joe Pass bit near the beginning, "Got Tabs," haha If my coffee was ready yet, I might have spit it up
Comment from : @BrandochGarage

hey Jens, you talk me through the chord jamand that is why I love you (fake internet love) I dig those Gypsy JamsYou knowthose jams when they play the hell out of that damn guitarinstead of the oppositewhen the guitar plays the human Us Folk dig them Gypsi chord jamsLET THE JAZZ FOLK PLAY THEM JAMSJens Larson
Comment from : @marcusaurealius6129

Tabs have opened up so much music to be easily played by guitarists They have brought enormous joy to thousands of guitarists I find reading guitar notation just doesn't come naturally, easily the way tabs do With tabs I've been able to play Bach suites- pretty much to sight read them This world of immense satisfaction would have been closed to me if they had only been available in standard notation as they largely were when I began playing in the 70s Despite teacher after teacher seemingly trying to shame me in this regard- I bless tabs every day of my guitar-playing life
Comment from : @applegrovebard

Coming from a nobody like myself, if you have to make a choice, choose to learn to read
Comment from : @railcar123

Great video and advice! Absolutely agree! Thanks!
Comment from : @felixplaza823

7:20 I am a little guilty of using iReal pro and learning to play in a superficial way Though using iReal pro has merry merits I'm going to come up with a better strategy and I appreciate you pointing this out Thanks again Jens 😎
Comment from : @cbolt4492

Mr Larsen can you Analyse the playing of Luiz Bonfá?
Comment from : @moisesalejandrojoseexposit5560

I had a teacher tell me that I'll eventually use everything I learn He's rightbrIt's my understanding that Wes learned how to play guitar in about 10 years, so he must've known how to "read" music in a form that most will never know brThere's also a myth that being addicted to heroin and living a dysfunctional life will give you a deep understanding of improvisation Sadly too many have bought into it Thank you for the video Jens
Comment from : @tomcripps7229

I COULD read the standard notation if I had to, and in fact I used to read notation but I just kind of got used to using Tab for pitch and fretboard position and referencing the notation for the timing(so I kinda just read music like a percussionist) I think guitar is one of those instruments that really has better aproaches to learning than notation, like I just mentioned, and of coarse learning by ear, charts,chrod boxes ect I use all of these methods We catch a bad reputation as guitar players(and it's true for like 95 of us) for not being educated properly with standard notation
Comment from : @FRANKBOOTH777