Title | : | BEST PRECISION 22LR FOR THE MONEY IN 2023 |
Lasting | : | 5.34 |
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Views | : | 133 rb |
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Perhaps that setup performs better at 100 yards, but at 50, spending $2500 on a 22 LR that shoots groups no tighter than my $240 Savage with Automatch or my $300 Marlin 60 stainless with random Winchester bulk is (sorry) absurd It's a 22 LR; the point of diminishing returns is closer to $200 brBuy a bunch of ammo, find what works best in your rifle Figure out how tight your stock screws need to be Polish the bore or recrown the barrel if you need Practice good breathing and a good trigger pull You don't need to waste your money on this silly shit Comment from : @randytrashcan |
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How do you feel about the new Chassis and Manners MTR Is the price jump from the varmint MTR worth it, if you haven't purchased any 457 yet? or get a barrel action and choose your own chassis? Comment from : @josephcrider5574 |
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picked up a 457 Varmint AT-ONE, changed to a Lilja 18 inch barrel with 043 headspace, zeroed the scope, using Eley Target 15 for 15 on a KYL 25" swinger at 50 yards Between the CZ action and the Lilja barrel, I am in love with this rifle Thanks for the passion for CZ's that you have, had a major impact on my decision Comment from : @brentsmith4688 |
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What barrel did you say is on it? Comment from : @earlkranston7463 |
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I wanted to get this set up for base class nrl22 However, the scope puts it $61 over the $1500 msrp limit Is there another scope that would be good with the $650 dollar limit after buying the rifle? Comment from : @austinorcino2200 |
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Why change out the barrel? If you want to highlight the 457 stock rifle as a stock 457 in a test, I would think you should not change anything Comment from : @joequintana5768 |
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It's a stock rifle if you changed out the barrel Comment from : @joequintana5768 |
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Marketing Comment from : @jmonahan1 |
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One of the best rifles I’m blessed to own! Absolutely a tack driver out to 100 yards!!! Comment from : @garrettbarbosa4982 |
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I disagree Not with what you say CZ warranty, and customer service are awful FACT: They will not even discuss my 455 with me, which is only 7 years old FACT: they have very few parts for their guns to do repairs Got a problem? Good luck Buy the gun at your own risk Comment from : @douglassnyder1292 |
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Bought my CZ457 Varmint MTR a couple of months back Since, I’ve added an Area419 30MOA rail, HB Industries bolt knob and “recoil lug”, Arken EP5 5-25x56, Arken low rings, throw lever, bubble level and a Bradley “Crazy Horse” cheek rest Hoping to get into benchrest shoots at some point if I can find any nearby Your channel is a wealth of knowledge and my buddies and I try to outshoot one another with our CZ’s One has the regular Varmint and the other has the Pro Varmint They all shoot phenomenally well Comment from : @ryanmckee2089 |
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This review is a sham If you're going to review a stock rifle, don't modify it Comment from : @OrganicBaseBeing |
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What bipod are you using? do you find a bipod or bags more stable? Comment from : @aaronjohnson4573 |
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Not a test, just shitty paid advertizing/ Comment from : @jcbaroux |
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Hey Josh, what kind of rifle case do you use for the CZ457? Comment from : @danielchambers1958 |
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It seemed to drift a little right after warming up We need to have thermal stabilization running thru the rifle assembly We have the Technology if YOU have the $$$$ : ) Comment from : @bobjimenez4464 |
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Hi Josh bought a CZ after watching your videos thx Comment from : @gpmcfm |
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I just bought this gun as well as the Tikka T1x, we'll see which one shoots best for me Comment from : @truthislovefaithisfreedom |
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Way too much money I just want something for rabbits and to teach my Great Grand Kids to shoot not waste my Pension Check for a month on Comment from : @woodrowbrimm2805 |
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I purchased the CZ 457 Varmint model 3 years ago for $400 It has yet to disappoint, out shoots everything at the range It favorite ammo is Aguila 22LR Standard, one hole groups are the norm! Comment from : @kencorsell8087 |
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Is the barrel a choice from new or an add on from the buyer ? Comment from : @POINTSOFAIMcheekyscouser |
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I put a 17HM2 Volquartsen barrel on my 10/22 and it shoots 1/2" groups at 100 yards, but I spent 2x more on the barrel than I did on the rifle, and it's a 10/22 Talk about your 'diminishing returns' A CZ457MTR is $850, a Lilja barrel is another $500, that's $1350 Kinda pricey for this kid :) 👍 Comment from : @Chuck1284- |
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CZ of any grade are very accurate so i have found Comment from : @DougCooley-h1e |
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Great video what rail are you using? Comment from : @jodylesniak2523 |
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what kind of barrel was that? Comment from : @tr_vmi4844 |
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Why don't shooters embrace the stock to shoot? It looks like you are caressing a toy rifle!!!Lol Comment from : @mnrodriguez |
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Custom barrel, custom high dollar ammo Any rifle will shoot good doing that Comment from : @elmerfudd7674 |
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Your groups are all over the place First group high left Next group left Next high right Although they're tight, they're not consistant Comment from : @SteveJ-hn8hs |
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Great vid, here in the UK, the MTR does seem to offer the best value for money out of the match chamber models Comment from : @setter55 |
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Stock rifle except the barrel ??? Rimfires are nothing with out the barrel so pointless review of a 457 really Why the POI shift with target 12 and 13 Comment from : @christhomas4260 |
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My Arca rail was 20 ish dollars CAD on Ali express The 100 dollar arca rail is the same material as the 20 dollar one Comment from : @jonenglish6617 |
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IMO the best bang for the buck upgrade is the ARCA rail It opens up so many possibilities Comment from : @jonenglish6617 |
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I'd be concerned about the poi shift with your rifle You are not going to be winning any matches with that one I sure hope that is not the Lilja barrel on that one Comment from : @lmbear |
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Man I have watched almost every video until you just said that This isn't a factory cz and I'm looking to buy a cz after all I've watched!!! Comment from : @anthonyrothenberger7320 |
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What is the rifle with the best FACTORY barrel for the stock/factory class?brI’m guessing it is the same rifle Thanks Comment from : @charlesmckinley29 |
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I got a stock cz457I'm not complaining Comment from : @kayakbob5715 |
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The lilja barrel makes this setup ineligible for the factory class in ara, if you are going to compete in the unlimited class you’re going to be shooting against rimx, anschutz, vudoo etc Comment from : @davidp2987 |
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I'm looking at getting a new gun I shoot ARA factory class, so I have to use the factory barrel I'm down to this 457 MTR, or the Bergara B14-R Knowing I have to use factory barrel what your pick? In the videos I've watch the B-14r sometimes has some feeding and extraction issues Comment from : @outboardfun3353 |
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who makes that cheek riser on that gun? Comment from : @outboardfun3353 |
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I bought a CA Ranger, and it is on its way back to be rebarreled I seriously wish I would have gone with another CZ or the Tikka T1 Comment from : @kevinsauer5794 |
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He's shooting too fast Those groups can tighten up a lot with proper breathing technique Comment from : @michaelwhite3478 |
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Hi Josh , have you ever tested or shot with the cz457 lrp ? Its a bit more expensive than the MTR but has had very good reviews Comment from : @martybennett1861 |
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What would you suggest for lefties? Comment from : @ianadamson1975 |
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CZ 457 VPT MTR or CZ 457 MTR Is it more accurate by 100 yards than the Anschutz 1761 D HB Thumbhole 20'' ?? Comment from : @murilofigue6739 |
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Josh, serious Noob question CZ's MTR rifles seem to have one "big thing," their "match grade" chamber I presume, once you replace the barrel, that is no longer a feature I guess my question is, do you need to spend "MTR" cash if you are going to build a rifle around the CZ 457 action/magazines? Are there other MTR features that make it (using the law of diminishing returns) a better jumping off point for a rifle build than a standard 457 rifle (eg the CZ American or the Pro Varmint)? Thanks for any constructive comments from the hive mind, too Comment from : @searchingfor6thgear44 |
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I agree Josh I have the CZ 457 MTR I have installed a Harrell barrel tuner and it shoots outstanding using Norma Tac 22 and RWS Rifle Match Great gun I don't compete but I do enjoy shooting just under MOA at 100 yards and cleaning the rack on my KYL targets at 100 yards Totally agree with your review of this rifle Thanks Comment from : @RetiredFE |
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I like my liljs hm2 17 cal barrels on my CZs Real squirrel and ground getters Comment from : @tnsharpshooter8517 |
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I think you will find the Anschutz to be the better rifle But it is spendy but as I have said many times buy once cry once Comment from : @Rockjock007 |
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I'm glad I saw this, cause for some reason I thought u needed the mtr CZ 457 to get a Lilja barrel Comment from : @KittyEvangeline |
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Great Video! I understand that the stock MTR barrel has a match chamber I was wondering how much precision did you gain by swapping to the Lilja? Comment from : @emmausroadjourneyman3530 |
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Was this barrel painted? All factory Lilja barrels that I'm seeing are bare stainless Comment from : @coreyghayes |
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is your lilija painted black from them/419 or did you do it yourself? Comment from : @afrowolf1399 |
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What cheek riser is that? Comment from : @darrellmiller3441 |
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You spelled tikka t1x wrong 😅😂 Comment from : @stukral68 |
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What barrel length do you like on the Lilja? Comment from : @rodneyparden9444 |
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Terrific video! I'm considering getting a 457 for fun at the range My local range only goes out to 200 yrds, but I might be able to find one for longer distances I haven't been able to find an MTR locally, although there are some other versions of the 457 available Is there a good reason to insist on the MTR? If I really like this type of shooting, I would consider getting something like an MDT chassis and other upgraded parts in the future as funds permit, but I'd like to limit my initial expenditure, as I haven't done this type of shooting before I'd appreciate any advice! Comment from : @peterdesmidt8742 |
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I ALWAYS FIND MYSELF COMING BACK TO YOUR NO BULL COMMENTARY ON THE CZ457 I ENJOY YOUR EXPLANATION AND YOUR OPINION ON 22 RIFLES IN GENERAL THANK YOU JOSH FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND EFFORT PUTTING OUT THESE VIDEOS Comment from : @richardmattix5322 |
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Did he say 7 MOA at 100 yards? Comment from : @joshuawest5511 |
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I must agree with you, I have 2 457s and the MTR is a direct result of finding your channel I was wondering if you pretty much use the same shim with all your Lilja barrels I put a Lilja on my 457 Trainer and put it in a KRG Bravo with a Timney trigger(also your fault) and it is really fun It was the first build I ever did and it shoots way better than I can I just bought a 10/22 off of Gunbroker that has been worked by CNC and has a bunch of Kidd parts but I am thinking of adding a Lilja barrel to it if for no other reason than a bull barrel will be cooler than the Ruger barrel Based again on your videos I was saving for a Kidd Supergrade but got this for about 1/3 the price By the time I'm done will probably spend as much as the Kidd Oh well, it's all fun Comment from : @marktracht7782 |
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Great video as always I love the CZ 457, but here is my question for you with regards to final upgrades I have seen built 457s and T1X, and also like the vudoo 360, but considering price and upgrade costs which would you go with fully upgraded if you could only have 1 for all styles? Comment from : @DustinLangel |
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Good morning Do you clean your barrel after each shooting session? How do you proceed? Comment from : @trtm9979 |
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Which cheek weld is that? I want to add one to my MTR, but I'm not sure I want to drill into the nice wood stock Comment from : @braddixon5825 |
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With Red SK, please JJ , France 😉 Comment from : @jean-jacquescharry8594 |
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Is that a 165" barrel? any benefit to go to their 20" Comment from : @jimgirton2764 |
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Any opinion on the 457 American version? Comment from : @techasatool4562 |
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My MTR likes SK rifle match best Comment from : @arnoldmoos1791 |
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there is a lot of CZ 457 shooting ARA factory also Comment from : @outboardfun3353 |
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Best 22 bolt rifle is the Savage MKii FV-SR Out the door-under $300 at most places Comment from : @robertwatson818 |
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What causes point of impact to change from one target to the next? Comment from : @alanegary156 |
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FYIbrYour videos are not showing up, i follow with the bell and nothing shows up brI had to go to your channel to find this video Comment from : @Redacted-Information |
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Love this gun, i have not changed my barrel YET Comment from : @Redacted-Information |
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Maybe it's time for me to get a 457 -- Thanks for sharing Comment from : @Dayattherange |
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Not really a 457 if it has a different barrel! Not a stock gun at all, sorry Comment from : @Johnnywoo7 |
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Agreed Only problem, lefty’s like me there must be another option I think only Tikka and Bergara offers left handed actions factory 22 lr’s… Comment from : @kamikazehunter |
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I did not get the name of the barrel , lozal, luzal,… could you tell us the barrel brand and the link to buy the barrel Comment from : @2226robin |
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You have such a great understanding of words and an even greater understanding of great rifles and thankyou for your excellent knowledge of CZ 22 rifles Comment from : @richardmattix5322 |
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I have got just 457 Varmint and yesterday I finished benchrest competitions with 5 place for 71 shooters! CZ making brilliant rifles and even don't need to buy so expensive one like MTR! :) brGreetings Josh! Comment from : @bart_maliszewski |
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I might add that before one buys a Lilja, check out the factory barrel Mine was very close to my Lilja in accuracy But the extra length and weight of the Lilja makes my gun balance better My factory barrel was 16 1/2” I do love the Lilja It shoots less expensive ammo very good I’m anxious to see what improvements I can get with higher end Ammo Comment from : @Jeff-mv4yy |
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So how much improvement is gained from the stock barrel to the Lila barrel Cost? Comment from : @jerryking3208 |
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Im not on the list of patreons! 😢 Comment from : @papaoskie |
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I agree that it's a heck of a rifle and it shoots really great even with the factory barrel That 457 MTR & an Arken EP5 will allow me to compete in the production division in PRS Great video Josh and keep shoot'n Comment from : @bretkoesser |
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Is the stock ambidextrous on this rifle? I'm a lefty Comment from : @shelley131 |
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Have been following your vids Josh Purchased my Varmint MTR because of your great reviews I've owned it a couple weeks now and I've put about 1000 rds through it so far What a great shooter with the right ammo I've adjusted trigger pull to about as low as I think the factory trigger will go safely I've added some extras but not sure I could mention name brands of products I added ie scope base, bolt knob, extended magazine release lever I've been enjoying it a lot! Thanks again!!! Comment from : @a-retired-fireman |
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Have same rifle with factory barrel Comment from : @johnnydalton6451 |
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I gotta agree with your assessment One gets a lot a great value for their hard earned dollars with this CZ Comment from : @conservativesniperhunter7439 |
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Question: do you blue locktite your bolt knobs on? Comment from : @tmurray1972 |
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