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BEST PRECISION 22LR FOR THE MONEY IN 2023

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Perhaps that setup performs better at 100 yards, but at 50, spending $2500 on a 22 LR that shoots groups no tighter than my $240 Savage with Automatch or my $300 Marlin 60 stainless with random Winchester bulk is (sorry) absurd It's a 22 LR; the point of diminishing returns is closer to $200 brBuy a bunch of ammo, find what works best in your rifle Figure out how tight your stock screws need to be Polish the bore or recrown the barrel if you need Practice good breathing and a good trigger pull You don't need to waste your money on this silly shit
Comment from : @randytrashcan

How do you feel about the new Chassis and Manners MTR Is the price jump from the varmint MTR worth it, if you haven't purchased any 457 yet? or get a barrel action and choose your own chassis?
Comment from : @josephcrider5574

picked up a 457 Varmint AT-ONE, changed to a Lilja 18 inch barrel with 043 headspace, zeroed the scope, using Eley Target 15 for 15 on a KYL 25" swinger at 50 yards Between the CZ action and the Lilja barrel, I am in love with this rifle Thanks for the passion for CZ's that you have, had a major impact on my decision
Comment from : @brentsmith4688

What barrel did you say is on it?
Comment from : @earlkranston7463

I wanted to get this set up for base class nrl22 However, the scope puts it $61 over the $1500 msrp limit Is there another scope that would be good with the $650 dollar limit after buying the rifle?
Comment from : @austinorcino2200

Why change out the barrel? If you want to highlight the 457 stock rifle as a stock 457 in a test, I would think you should not change anything
Comment from : @joequintana5768

It's a stock rifle if you changed out the barrel
Comment from : @joequintana5768

Marketing
Comment from : @jmonahan1

One of the best rifles I’m blessed to own! Absolutely a tack driver out to 100 yards!!!
Comment from : @garrettbarbosa4982

I disagree Not with what you say CZ warranty, and customer service are awful FACT: They will not even discuss my 455 with me, which is only 7 years old FACT: they have very few parts for their guns to do repairs Got a problem? Good luck Buy the gun at your own risk
Comment from : @douglassnyder1292

Bought my CZ457 Varmint MTR a couple of months back Since, I’ve added an Area419 30MOA rail, HB Industries bolt knob and “recoil lug”, Arken EP5 5-25x56, Arken low rings, throw lever, bubble level and a Bradley “Crazy Horse” cheek rest Hoping to get into benchrest shoots at some point if I can find any nearby Your channel is a wealth of knowledge and my buddies and I try to outshoot one another with our CZ’s One has the regular Varmint and the other has the Pro Varmint They all shoot phenomenally well
Comment from : @ryanmckee2089

This review is a sham If you're going to review a stock rifle, don't modify it
Comment from : @OrganicBaseBeing

What bipod are you using? do you find a bipod or bags more stable?
Comment from : @aaronjohnson4573

Not a test, just shitty paid advertizing/
Comment from : @jcbaroux

Hey Josh, what kind of rifle case do you use for the CZ457?
Comment from : @danielchambers1958

It seemed to drift a little right after warming up We need to have thermal stabilization running thru the rifle assembly We have the Technology if YOU have the $$$$ : )
Comment from : @bobjimenez4464

Hi Josh bought a CZ after watching your videos thx
Comment from : @gpmcfm

I just bought this gun as well as the Tikka T1x, we'll see which one shoots best for me
Comment from : @truthislovefaithisfreedom

Way too much money I just want something for rabbits and to teach my Great Grand Kids to shoot not waste my Pension Check for a month on
Comment from : @woodrowbrimm2805

I purchased the CZ 457 Varmint model 3 years ago for $400 It has yet to disappoint, out shoots everything at the range It favorite ammo is Aguila 22LR Standard, one hole groups are the norm!
Comment from : @kencorsell8087

Is the barrel a choice from new or an add on from the buyer ?
Comment from : @POINTSOFAIMcheekyscouser

I put a 17HM2 Volquartsen barrel on my 10/22 and it shoots 1/2" groups at 100 yards, but I spent 2x more on the barrel than I did on the rifle, and it's a 10/22 Talk about your 'diminishing returns' A CZ457MTR is $850, a Lilja barrel is another $500, that's $1350 Kinda pricey for this kid :) 👍
Comment from : @Chuck1284-

CZ of any grade are very accurate so i have found
Comment from : @DougCooley-h1e

Great video what rail are you using?
Comment from : @jodylesniak2523

what kind of barrel was that?
Comment from : @tr_vmi4844

Why don't shooters embrace the stock to shoot? It looks like you are caressing a toy rifle!!!Lol
Comment from : @mnrodriguez

Custom barrel, custom high dollar ammo Any rifle will shoot good doing that
Comment from : @elmerfudd7674

Your groups are all over the place First group high left Next group left Next high right Although they're tight, they're not consistant
Comment from : @SteveJ-hn8hs

Great vid, here in the UK, the MTR does seem to offer the best value for money out of the match chamber models
Comment from : @setter55

Stock rifle except the barrel ??? Rimfires are nothing with out the barrel so pointless review of a 457 really Why the POI shift with target 12 and 13
Comment from : @christhomas4260

My Arca rail was 20 ish dollars CAD on Ali express The 100 dollar arca rail is the same material as the 20 dollar one
Comment from : @jonenglish6617

IMO the best bang for the buck upgrade is the ARCA rail It opens up so many possibilities
Comment from : @jonenglish6617

I'd be concerned about the poi shift with your rifle You are not going to be winning any matches with that one I sure hope that is not the Lilja barrel on that one
Comment from : @lmbear

Man I have watched almost every video until you just said that This isn't a factory cz and I'm looking to buy a cz after all I've watched!!!
Comment from : @anthonyrothenberger7320

What is the rifle with the best FACTORY barrel for the stock/factory class?brI’m guessing it is the same rifle Thanks
Comment from : @charlesmckinley29

I got a stock cz457I'm not complaining
Comment from : @kayakbob5715

The lilja barrel makes this setup ineligible for the factory class in ara, if you are going to compete in the unlimited class you’re going to be shooting against rimx, anschutz, vudoo etc
Comment from : @davidp2987

I'm looking at getting a new gun I shoot ARA factory class, so I have to use the factory barrel I'm down to this 457 MTR, or the Bergara B14-R Knowing I have to use factory barrel what your pick? In the videos I've watch the B-14r sometimes has some feeding and extraction issues
Comment from : @outboardfun3353

who makes that cheek riser on that gun?
Comment from : @outboardfun3353

I bought a CA Ranger, and it is on its way back to be rebarreled I seriously wish I would have gone with another CZ or the Tikka T1
Comment from : @kevinsauer5794

He's shooting too fast Those groups can tighten up a lot with proper breathing technique
Comment from : @michaelwhite3478

Hi Josh , have you ever tested or shot with the cz457 lrp ? Its a bit more expensive than the MTR but has had very good reviews
Comment from : @martybennett1861

What would you suggest for lefties?
Comment from : @ianadamson1975

CZ 457 VPT MTR or CZ 457 MTR Is it more accurate by 100 yards than the Anschutz 1761 D HB Thumbhole 20'' ??
Comment from : @murilofigue6739

Josh, serious Noob question CZ's MTR rifles seem to have one "big thing," their "match grade" chamber I presume, once you replace the barrel, that is no longer a feature I guess my question is, do you need to spend "MTR" cash if you are going to build a rifle around the CZ 457 action/magazines? Are there other MTR features that make it (using the law of diminishing returns) a better jumping off point for a rifle build than a standard 457 rifle (eg the CZ American or the Pro Varmint)? Thanks for any constructive comments from the hive mind, too
Comment from : @searchingfor6thgear44

I agree Josh I have the CZ 457 MTR I have installed a Harrell barrel tuner and it shoots outstanding using Norma Tac 22 and RWS Rifle Match Great gun I don't compete but I do enjoy shooting just under MOA at 100 yards and cleaning the rack on my KYL targets at 100 yards Totally agree with your review of this rifle Thanks
Comment from : @RetiredFE

I like my liljs hm2 17 cal barrels on my CZs Real squirrel and ground getters
Comment from : @tnsharpshooter8517

I think you will find the Anschutz to be the better rifle But it is spendy but as I have said many times buy once cry once
Comment from : @Rockjock007

I'm glad I saw this, cause for some reason I thought u needed the mtr CZ 457 to get a Lilja barrel
Comment from : @KittyEvangeline

Great Video! I understand that the stock MTR barrel has a match chamber I was wondering how much precision did you gain by swapping to the Lilja?
Comment from : @emmausroadjourneyman3530

Was this barrel painted? All factory Lilja barrels that I'm seeing are bare stainless
Comment from : @coreyghayes

is your lilija painted black from them/419 or did you do it yourself?
Comment from : @afrowolf1399

What cheek riser is that?
Comment from : @darrellmiller3441

You spelled tikka t1x wrong 😅😂
Comment from : @stukral68

What barrel length do you like on the Lilja?
Comment from : @rodneyparden9444

Terrific video! I'm considering getting a 457 for fun at the range My local range only goes out to 200 yrds, but I might be able to find one for longer distances I haven't been able to find an MTR locally, although there are some other versions of the 457 available Is there a good reason to insist on the MTR? If I really like this type of shooting, I would consider getting something like an MDT chassis and other upgraded parts in the future as funds permit, but I'd like to limit my initial expenditure, as I haven't done this type of shooting before I'd appreciate any advice!
Comment from : @peterdesmidt8742

I ALWAYS FIND MYSELF COMING BACK TO YOUR NO BULL COMMENTARY ON THE CZ457 I ENJOY YOUR EXPLANATION AND YOUR OPINION ON 22 RIFLES IN GENERAL THANK YOU JOSH FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND EFFORT PUTTING OUT THESE VIDEOS
Comment from : @richardmattix5322

Did he say 7 MOA at 100 yards?
Comment from : @joshuawest5511

I must agree with you, I have 2 457s and the MTR is a direct result of finding your channel I was wondering if you pretty much use the same shim with all your Lilja barrels I put a Lilja on my 457 Trainer and put it in a KRG Bravo with a Timney trigger(also your fault) and it is really fun It was the first build I ever did and it shoots way better than I can I just bought a 10/22 off of Gunbroker that has been worked by CNC and has a bunch of Kidd parts but I am thinking of adding a Lilja barrel to it if for no other reason than a bull barrel will be cooler than the Ruger barrel Based again on your videos I was saving for a Kidd Supergrade but got this for about 1/3 the price By the time I'm done will probably spend as much as the Kidd Oh well, it's all fun
Comment from : @marktracht7782

Great video as always I love the CZ 457, but here is my question for you with regards to final upgrades I have seen built 457s and T1X, and also like the vudoo 360, but considering price and upgrade costs which would you go with fully upgraded if you could only have 1 for all styles?
Comment from : @DustinLangel

Good morning Do you clean your barrel after each shooting session? How do you proceed?
Comment from : @trtm9979

Which cheek weld is that? I want to add one to my MTR, but I'm not sure I want to drill into the nice wood stock
Comment from : @braddixon5825

With Red SK, please JJ , France 😉
Comment from : @jean-jacquescharry8594

Is that a 165" barrel? any benefit to go to their 20"
Comment from : @jimgirton2764

Any opinion on the 457 American version?
Comment from : @techasatool4562

My MTR likes SK rifle match best
Comment from : @arnoldmoos1791

there is a lot of CZ 457 shooting ARA factory also
Comment from : @outboardfun3353

Best 22 bolt rifle is the Savage MKii FV-SR Out the door-under $300 at most places
Comment from : @robertwatson818

What causes point of impact to change from one target to the next?
Comment from : @alanegary156

FYIbrYour videos are not showing up, i follow with the bell and nothing shows up brI had to go to your channel to find this video
Comment from : @Redacted-Information

Love this gun, i have not changed my barrel YET
Comment from : @Redacted-Information

Maybe it's time for me to get a 457 -- Thanks for sharing
Comment from : @Dayattherange

Not really a 457 if it has a different barrel! Not a stock gun at all, sorry
Comment from : @Johnnywoo7

Agreed Only problem, lefty’s like me there must be another option I think only Tikka and Bergara offers left handed actions factory 22 lr’s…
Comment from : @kamikazehunter

I did not get the name of the barrel , lozal, luzal,… could you tell us the barrel brand and the link to buy the barrel
Comment from : @2226robin

You have such a great understanding of words and an even greater understanding of great rifles and thankyou for your excellent knowledge of CZ 22 rifles
Comment from : @richardmattix5322

I have got just 457 Varmint and yesterday I finished benchrest competitions with 5 place for 71 shooters! CZ making brilliant rifles and even don't need to buy so expensive one like MTR! :) brGreetings Josh!
Comment from : @bart_maliszewski

I might add that before one buys a Lilja, check out the factory barrel Mine was very close to my Lilja in accuracy But the extra length and weight of the Lilja makes my gun balance better My factory barrel was 16 1/2” I do love the Lilja It shoots less expensive ammo very good I’m anxious to see what improvements I can get with higher end Ammo
Comment from : @Jeff-mv4yy

So how much improvement is gained from the stock barrel to the Lila barrel Cost?
Comment from : @jerryking3208

Im not on the list of patreons! 😢
Comment from : @papaoskie

I agree that it's a heck of a rifle and it shoots really great even with the factory barrel That 457 MTR & an Arken EP5 will allow me to compete in the production division in PRS Great video Josh and keep shoot'n
Comment from : @bretkoesser

Is the stock ambidextrous on this rifle? I'm a lefty
Comment from : @shelley131

Have been following your vids Josh Purchased my Varmint MTR because of your great reviews I've owned it a couple weeks now and I've put about 1000 rds through it so far What a great shooter with the right ammo I've adjusted trigger pull to about as low as I think the factory trigger will go safely I've added some extras but not sure I could mention name brands of products I added ie scope base, bolt knob, extended magazine release lever I've been enjoying it a lot! Thanks again!!!
Comment from : @a-retired-fireman

Have same rifle with factory barrel
Comment from : @johnnydalton6451

I gotta agree with your assessment One gets a lot a great value for their hard earned dollars with this CZ
Comment from : @conservativesniperhunter7439