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Proof u0026 Prooflike Morgan Dollars - How to Tell the Difference - MS66 u0026 MS67 Morgans, Proof 1879 Dime

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ThanksI was wondering how to tell very good explanation I bought a collection of raw morgans back in 98 and there's some different looking ones that I put aside cause i suspect maybe just maybe one or two could possibly be a Proof they just stood out
Comment from : @wildbillo68

Out of the first two I prefer the 1898, maybe it’s the lighting, but it doesn’t look like a white coin to me, it looks like it has a very pleasant light green toning going on brThis is the first proof Morgan that I’ve ever seen It would be nice to own one, but I’ve never seen one for sale on ebay Thanks for the video 🤠👍
Comment from : @ManDad_1964

Great video Ben I have always wondered the answer to the question that you posed and answered in this video I really appreciate showing the details of the rim that explain the difference brbrThis question has bugged me for years
Comment from : @thewolfe1099

I like the 1898 ms66 and prefer a new shiny look versus toning Although I don’t like those long cracks Those proofs are spectacular !
Comment from : @twojags88

I would love to have a proof Morgan Maybe someday! Thank you for energizing me in that direction!
Comment from : @brucetelfeyan

Took me way too long to find a video like this Thank you
Comment from : @judesullivan2502

This is a late comment, but the '03 is badly over graded
Comment from : @dskinyc

I noticed that the 1903 MS 67 (seems to have a relatively weak strikeesp noticeable on the week eagle's feathers)yet it still got the extremely high grade I read in books and have heard years ago, that if there's a weak strike, even if near perfect cheek/fields, etc, it can never get above a 65 Any comments are appreciated Thank you
Comment from : @jameskerry3826

More like this brSemi high grade rarities tutorial brbrTy ty
Comment from : @arnival3694

Agree on the harsh grade for that proof You find pr-65s that look worse than that
Comment from : @prawnstar9213

THANK YOU! Finally someone talks about Morgan PROOF! So difficult to have graded correctly!!!!! Like almost impossible if you’re not known in the business The dead giveaway is that I think you called it acrylic?? I call it waxy over glaze not all have perfect rims but they will be square along with boxy denticles Higher “hair bumps” than BS Boxy raised lettering and numbers
Comment from : @prawnstar9213

Do you sell your coins,
Comment from : @doctorgoldbud1321

Do you want to sell some of those coins I like the 1892 Morgan dollar s Ms 63
Comment from : @doctorgoldbud1321

What would be the simple comparison of PF Morgan and Morgan DMPL?
Comment from : @simbathewhitelion887

Sorry for the triplepost, but I think they made the proofs at multiple mints! My guess doing a super lowball is 10-20k, which is fair to do considering they've had over a century to be subjected to all sorts of sad fates They gave these to governors and colleges, so I can imagine a governor not caring for coins doing something like tipping a waitress with it, and it eventually winds up flea marketed to some excited knowitnone old fart who promptly takes it home and wirebrushes it to death Or there could be some across several campuses stored in boxes, forgotten and just waiting brbrAt any rate, I wonder if 2023's proofs will try to be styled similarly, and if so, how much that will change the price of these old proofs PLs and DPLs will always have their own market for the reasons you mentioned, as they are somehow far stronger than any proof even made more recently in 90 and each just has that unique character about them, but these proofs will soon have only history on their side instead of overall type rarity My guess, though, is that the proofs next year (though no doubt sure to be nice) will not at all be like that - I didn't even see these reflecting you, so I don't know if they are more of a satin finish proof like you mentioned, or if these tone well, or even if you just didn't get a good angle, not wanting to accidentally self-dox! brbrAnyhow, loved the video! Coins deserve to be showed off, so thanks for showing them to us
Comment from : @Pdstor

Second comment, since it is a PF, aren't the standards themselves different for the scale due to how categorically different the type of coin is?
Comment from : @Pdstor

Eagle looked a little strapped for chest feathers for an MS67
Comment from : @Pdstor

Thank you Excellent information
Comment from : @jameskerry3826

I really wish there were a different term for wire rims on coins It's the wrong word to describe a sharp rim A wire rim means that the rim is shaped like a wire, which is a thin, round surface, not a sharp edge with sharp sides
Comment from : @singlesideman

I wish someone was tracking toning on coins based on storage conditions, eg 2x2, slab, other and including the general temperature range thebr coins might have been stored brBasically I’m interested in how much toning occurs and how long it takes for toning to occur brbrNice coins you have and I love that blue toning br👍🏽
Comment from : @everettwhite9874

Learn something new about Morgan’s all the time Man I’d like a Morgan with a proof only designation like the one you showed
Comment from : @SpokaneSilverStacker

Could you look at a coin for me Im trying to figure out if it's proof or prooflike it's a 1904 o Morgan dollar
Comment from : @robertkeesee630

Weak strike on the eagles breast 1903
Comment from : @beastmodeforever86

Definitely the 98o
Comment from : @beastmodeforever86

Can you do another in depth video explaining morgan proofs? Seems like your the only one on you tube with a video about them
Comment from : @wangdang2220

On the 03 MS 67, the strike isn't that good Look at the hair over the ear Or is that worn dies? With the toning, it's hard to judge the luster
Comment from : @davidho2977

Very educational Thank you
Comment from : @TheRugghead

Thanks a lot for useful info about wire rim of proof coinsbrA great respect for your job!!!
Comment from : @feelalive1890

Are they not harsh on proof coins as they know SOOOO many of them have been messed with over the years ?brTechnically I would suggest there are more impaired proofs (pre 1935), than non-impaired proofsbrFrom what I’ve been told in the first half of the 19th c it was considered acceptable even encouraged to shine coins up rub or even polish thembrThe fact that there are wide spreads between certain grades in certain series has and always will motivate and spark greedy coin doctors to get to work
Comment from : @Samscoinsandheavymetal

Want to thx you iv been looking for a vidoe like this for a while I got a 1886 morgan with the wire rim on the back on one side
Comment from : @TheMakaveli96

What's an 1881 O MS67 worth?
Comment from : @chrisramirez980

Does this video count as college credit? I feel like I just got educated :o)
Comment from : @champstar9669

The wire rim doesn't lie on these for sure - thanks I learned something today! This idiot found an 1886 Proof and swished the toning off in waterlike an idiot$40 investment shoulda woulda coulda :(I guess it's not ruined but I've yet to send it in for gradingthere'll be more that wash up during Covid especially
Comment from : @andrewhart6200

great info ben awesome coins
Comment from : @charlesadkins7067

I have Morgan dollar sir u buy
Comment from : @rogelfortugaliza7018

Very educational my man I'm armed with knowledge about what a proof Morgan looks like I have never seen one ever,in person like in a coin shop, cool video 😃👍✌
Comment from : @conradpons9238

Some awsome Morgans there hope to have a 67 in my collection one day thanks for sharing
Comment from : @stackattackerwager2541

WOWWWZERS Awesome Amazing Morgan's wow
Comment from : @mikepalet122

Thank you!
Comment from : @upnorthcollector3267

BEAUTIFUL HIGH QAULITY PIECES! LOVE THE TONERS!🤤😍🤤😍🤤😍
Comment from : @antfrey302

Nice Morgans indeed!👍
Comment from : @ShutterEmotions123

Love the proofs! Great info in the video
Comment from : @tekvet01

Thanks for teaching about the wire rims I was not aware of any of that but this was a perfect first lesson So many amazing Morgan silver dollars here lately! Wow!
Comment from : @fifteenbyfive

Gorgeous proofs Ben! Love both I am in the market for a proof Seated Half Still haven't one yet I love my PR Morgan Yes they are harsh on them But rightfully so Proofs display all of the details Rubs of the coin really standout as hairlines with the super reflective fields Anyhow, thanks for sharing!
Comment from : @silversurfer1986

Like most, prefer the 98-o over the 1903 The 98-o is gorgeous and looks like a 67 Not sure about the 1903 but that might be the toning Thanks Ben Keep up the videos
Comment from : @staleydu1

All my Morgan dollars are ms64 or lower But I love looking at all your great coins Thanks
Comment from : @timothyloyd3802

Great info Almost as great as that morgan Thanks
Comment from : @Pacificstacker

Thanks for information 👍
Comment from : @nasirhusainsmansuri9990

That 1903 is a tad over-graded
Comment from : @theblake5356

Awesome details preserved on the reverse of that dime The 98O is the most attractive of the dollars, but that proof is something that is pretty unique Great show and tell on the wire rim and denticles
Comment from : @davidufford1328

IMO, the 1898 O looks better than the 1903, even though a half point behind The proof dollar gets a 62 in my book with a lot of hairlines and the contact marks in the field to the right of Liberty bust, even scratches such as like on her neck
Comment from : @ericdawson845

WOW Love that proof Morgan Thanks for all the good information too! 😀👍
Comment from : @Ontario100

This was one of the better videos I've seen in a long time I study Coins very often but I feel like you just got my knowledge up way better! Thanks for the schooling Ben! Have a good weekend
Comment from : @jrduke45

Another great video topic I've been on the hunt for a nice MS66-MS67 Morgan
Comment from : @MichaelC_22

To me it’s quite obvious the difference but I am so used to looking at other coins that it is nice to see it on those Thank you that was a cool video
Comment from : @masterofcents8175

The dime is top shelf stuff
Comment from : @masterofcents8175