Stop Buying These Used Computers

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Title	:	Stop Buying These Used Computers
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Correction: My mistake, Windows 11 is compatible on the i5 8500, I was talking about the i5 5600 and made a mistake My apologies, added a caption correction in video at the point of mistake But this mistake does not change the results and point of the video
Comment from : @Britec09

You are buying all those components separately paying separate shipping on each one which will significantly raise the total price from what you've shown
Comment from : @nsptyty9617

Man you rly dont like old office pcs I dont think 4th or 5th gen is useless Everyday tasks are flawless and putting like a rx6400 or 1050ti in it they just run Most of them have decent powersupplysbrJust looked it up Dell optiplex 5080 with i5 10500 8gb ram and a small ssd for 220€ Its good value
Comment from : @florianschulz946

Here is a little tidbit you should know very importantbrWindows 11 actually has an installation mode that turns off the fake requirements that Microsoft illegally mandated as a requirement Microsoft is now fully violating every nation's monopoly laws it's important to spell this out I would urge you to find out the special install technique Given that Microsoft is doing this and is breaking many laws in many nations by doing so might I suggest that you start teaching people how to switch over to Linux or other non windows operating systems
Comment from : @alexanderfederowicz

Another problem with these old Optiplex machines are they are bottom-barrel quality Dell makes their $ by cutting costs on mobo, drives, etc Anything not listed as a name-brand "Cool, Intel i5 chip" Yeah, but it's mounted to a non-name mobo "Cool 1TB drive!" Yeah, another no-name POS "Cool 8GB ram!" Again, no name junk It's all made-in-china garbage Optiplex is sold to businesses, but it is not "business class" in the sense of high-end work station type stuff So, not only is it old, but it's old garbagebrbrThe only upside is many, MANY office computers barely get used for anything heavier than web apps or light office duty Most companies are using them as glorified thin clients to log into web apps, or to run some old program that's never been upgraded in 10 years and this latest office pc can run circles around I've worked in office environments for 2 decades, and 90 of office workers are not running hardcore stuff that will tax the pcbrbrSo, in that regard, it's almost like getting a lightly-used machine It's not like getting some crypto-miner's gfx card You're getting the pc equivilent of someone that took their car out to drive around the block every day instead of running it cross-country like a truck shipping materialsbrbrBut, yeah these old Optiplex it's the kind of stuff you'd think was cool if you found it on the curb and wanted to put Linux on it I wouldn't pop money to buy one, though
Comment from : @therandomdot2563

This is why you should buy second hand gaming PCs with people who are upgrading their whole system in your area eg Done deal I got good gaming pc for 70 including shipping because the person was moving and wanted to get a new system Only upgraded the ram and added new m2 ssd
Comment from : @notorioushacker221

Hello rom the US, was about to buy an optiplex You saved me a lot of troubleThank you I subscribed
Comment from : @warlock420

I use an old Dell Optiplex 390 as a Minecraft server and it does a great job It keeps up with multiple players rending chunks at the same time with no problem These computers can still be useful Any computer that uses LGA 1155 or newer is still totally usable for most people Even the older LGA 1366 is still perfectly usable, but I would avoid LGA 775 because that is too old
Comment from : @Omegadoomship

Not gonna cut the mustard for 2023 or even 2024?? 😂😂😂 With windows yes sure but not with Linux if one can figure out too how to flash BIOS (if one really wants too) without option to do so from BIOS setup with just USB storage instead of boot USB way
Comment from : @Matt2010

I don't understand how we get around the cost of the OS license It really makes the older pre-builts more attractive
Comment from : @JamesCampbellPPG

this is nice but they sell for 30$ to 50$ not 160$, now beat it at 30$ bro
Comment from : @MagnusMegamind

Old computer can last a fair time though My 2008 Lenovo m58p backup computer is running with Win 10 Pro, and it only takes 24 seconds to power up, and 8 seconds the shut down, and it can still handle YouTube videos playing at 1440p @ 60 fps
Comment from : @helifynoe9930

I was shocked when finding things out like the overlapping of the range of possible operating speeds of DDR2, DDR3, and DDR4 rams In other words, you could be getting a DDR3 ram that is running at the old DDR2 speeds The same applies the DDR4's that can be running at DDR3 speeds
Comment from : @helifynoe9930

How mucn
Comment from : @HelenZegeye-o4o

Come on man 8th gen is the minimum requirement for windows 11
Comment from : @techbro-ke

I picked up Dell Prevision T3610 with a Xeon E5-1650 V2 It has 48GB of Quad channel memory, had a 256GB SSD I've since added a GTX 1070 It cost me the same as you paid for your CPU, Motherboard and RAM I also had a Quadro GPU I could sell from it and made back £30brbrThe machine comes with extensive cooling, is extremely well build and I can upgrade to an event faster CPU and Windows 10 goes EOL in two yearsbrbrThe power supply us 750w gold More than I'll even need It's hard for me to justify paying double for just 20 more single performance and a much slower graphics card
Comment from : @RobertLeather

No, don't fall for it at all What sellers do is remove insulation that is between the motherboard and the case to sabotage the computer When you go and upgrade it, there is an electrostatic discharge that fries the motherboard and since there is no warranty on used computers, you will be left with electronic waste It's best to get used computers locally from a trusted IT technician, never online
Comment from : @Barafu

I have a dell optipelx 9010 core i7 3770 and 32gb of ram f windows and f microsoft i got linux this thing will last me 10 years 😂 or more cus windows laptops today still come with 4gb of ram which is jacked up i also have a hp probook 6570b with a core i7 something and 8gb of ram lol these work just fine for me lol
Comment from : @Jordansklar0698

I've been getting older 12-16GB HP ProBook laptops with Win 11 Pro for around $USD 60-80 Benchmark numbers don't matter to me if I get usable performance for the basic stuff I do
Comment from : @richardsteiner8992

I think you're overlooking us hobbyists who upgrade older computers simply because we like doing it I went crazy with an OptiPlex 7010 SFF (the GPU is worth more than the rest of the PC combined) and had a blast doing it It runs modern software handily (ignore the benchmarks, they don't tell the whole story) and I can play my AAA games from my Steam library when I'm in the mood
Comment from : @bryans8656

thats weird, i have a dell laptop that has an 8th gen i5 cpu with 16gb ram and in windows update, it says my laptop is compatible and upgradable to windows 11why is my 8th gen i5 laptop upradeble to windows 11 but an 8th i5 on a desktop is not???
Comment from : @ThisIsHarderThanIThought

Upgrading the power supply on these older Dell computers?brAre the old motherboards really capable of handing the extra wattage , long term?
Comment from : @frankstone919

These are quite still useful as second pcs or suit for home server purpose They run proxmox fine and you can do few vms for example you can run a truenas with some hard drives or cheap ssds, or you can run pfsense and upgrade your crap modem Even if "not supported and compatible on windows 11" (even works on a core 2 duo, slow but works) these pcs have still something to say, of course not buy them as gaming pcs or workstations
Comment from : @leonardotoschi585

well, thanks for that hoever i hate brand new pc cases because you can t put optical drives in brand new cases and i miss the days of budget gaming pc s having the ability to dualboot windows 10 and windows xp
Comment from : @mihaillevarda9395

A lot of people who buy those dell systems don’t know much about computers and just see the modern tags like i5 and ssd and think it’s a good modern computer Unfortunately those same people won’t have a clue how to build a pc themselves
Comment from : @markwalsh8411

First of all, you don't always have to upgrade/put in a new power supply unit in your older pcs-it all depends onbrwhat you intend to (mainly) use the pc for I bought an HP I7 3770 sff pc quad-core, 8 thread for around 150 bucks (US) on Amazon, and the only upgrade that I did was the RAM (swapped out the 4g, and put in a total of 32G which is the max for this model) My pc is super fast, and I have had no problems (so far) with it
Comment from : @jessieball6195

Thank you!!
Comment from : @Samtheman85844

There his an excelente store in uk well know they sell gráfics cards and cpu brbrPlus by build ing it yourself it mean you will learn and can fixe it upgrade when you have the oporunaty brbrGet one of thies cheap Windows Keys
Comment from : @jaimecosta2966

These old systems made sense when they were dirt cheap but lately they seem to have risen in price I'm using an i7 6700 PC and I can tell you it's absolute garbage for the money I spent
Comment from : @andrewosei328

i've used sandy bridge i5s with windows 10 and they're blazing blast with an ssd they only start to slow down when you're running more intensive applications or doing extreme multitasking there's new computers being sold for way more with way worse specs sure, these desktops don't run windows 11 that well but i'd honestly blame the os more than the computer because windows 11 is a horribly bloated mess of uwp apps blended with win32 apps windows 11 doesn't even run that well on my ryzen 5 3600 which is significantly faster than these old cpus i've even used it with an i7 11700 with a wd black ssd and it's performance still wasn't great you could just use windows 10 it's getting security updates for several more years and the ltsc versions of windows are getting security updates for even longer
Comment from : @dight_

If you're not into gaming you don't need to add a graphics card which also means you don't need to upgrade the power supply
Comment from : @writerpatrick

Meanwhile linux users: What is a system requirement?
Comment from : @victormurori4367

For the first one actually wasn't that bad of deal with the CPU it has as it is an 8th gen, went the same route in 2019 When all prices were crazy, optiplex 3020 MT came with an i5 won it for $30, eventually picked up a cheap i7 4790 and aftermarket case (This generation motherboard is compatible in aftermarket cases not sure about the newer ones Just need a few dollar adapter for better power supply) added 450 watt PSU,16GB Ram,256GB SSD,cheap 4TB HDD, and at the time a GTX 950, once GPU prices came down upgraded to a used 2060 for $100 & 8TB Toshiba performance drive was on sale All in all around $390 Still use it to this day as my main PC zero issues can run cyberpunk and others on medium settings on 1080p with Ray tracing and still get 50 to 60 FPS Would not recommend anything below an 8th gen due to the requirements of Windows 11 nowadays though but at the time these could be good deals One thing I'll say is don't cheap out on hard drives if you want to run games! The 4TB was absolutely horrible! The Toshiba huge improvement feels like a different PC no more stuttering loading graphics in The 2060 seems to pair good with the i7 4th gens, they're about equal in unusualization
Comment from : @Jtechmodern

back in 2010 these were idea cheap units found in pawn shops, now its 2023 of course its not good now 3ghz been around too long now
Comment from : @alwiesbauer3117

I bought 2 basic used Dell desktops for a charity I support It needed to replace a couple of old TPM-less AMD boxes They were $80 US each delivered off Amazon Basic i5, craptastic HDD (which ended up being a laptop HDD in a 35" adapter bracket) 8GB RAM Junk to buy even at that price, if used as-is I already had RAM and decent SSDs to throw in them though, which made them viable They're just used for data entry For a general consumer though, especially someone looking to add a GPU for some gaming? Hard pass!
Comment from : @jblyon2

cause everyone needs a gaming PC for everything of course ah nope, just to run the botnets included in windows elevenbrbrmyself i'm lurking on eBay for a small optiplex to plug in on my TV and run all the best games, watch my pirated movies and just everything that doesn't draws 250 watts all the time
Comment from : @SilverSpoon_

I found one locally with a 10th gen i5 close to 300 dollars
Comment from : @jimmyhails

Most people just want a PC to stream video and general surfing on the net I have two refurbished desktop PC's, one is an i5 3450 and the other is an Athlon A10-8770 R7 it does me for day to day usage and the other I only watch tubi TV on, both PC's are by HP and run W10 In total they cost me less than the cheapest PC from any shop
Comment from : @wildthing6668813

The problem here is not the hardware, it's Microsoft Windows Old hardware can still be very usable but people are being told to chuck it away so they can continue to serve under Microsoft's dictatorshipbrI'm using a 2nd generation Sandy Bridge I7 with Linux with a Nvidia GTX790 It serves all my photo, sound and video editing needs including the latest blender at a perfectly acceptable speed It also plays games, if you must have the latest greatest games get a console
Comment from : @RobA500

Who cares about Win 11 I got that on a gaming laptop on sale for 500 £, MSI Katana win 11, i5 GTX1650, 8 ram (immediately added 8 more) Nvme 40 disk was ridiculously small, 256 gb, so got 512 cheap from Aliexpress, installed win10 Ghost Spectre which is MUCH faster and everything works I use Windows mostly for gaming so can probably use win 10 long after expiration
Comment from : @steinbauge4591

I agree that old Optiplex systems aren't great for gaming, but for SOHO systems, they're fantastic I've got customers still using 7010 mid towers and slim towers that I deployed 11-12 years ago I also had a customer that bought a mid tower Optiplex (I believe it was a 7020) as a "gaming system" that had an old lower end graphics card in it The power supply hadn't been upgraded and the original had given out I did get it going on an upgraded power supply, but it wasn't much of a gamer That said, refurbished Optiplex and Latitude systems with (Windows 11 supported) 8th gen core CPUs are getting very reasonable on eBay here in the USA They're great systems for normal users and I'll happily deploy them for my customers Thanks for the video
Comment from : @ToadeRTroniX

i bought one and im happy with it im gonna upgrade it when gpu price drops off 80 in 5 years or so
Comment from : @CarinoGamingStudio

most of those systems were cheap trash when new Don't waste time or money on those
Comment from : @shawnbergin8479

It all depends on what you want the PC for You don't "need" a graphics card For a general home PC, these ex office units are great And a very cheap way of getting a good system I get these Optiplex's from work for nothing, and spending 50 quid upgrading to an SSD, and extra RAM is a no brainer, even if it is only a 2nd gen i3 brWindows 11 can be installed on the very basic of older machines with a simple work around People shouldn't be being put off older systems because of the scaremongering around win 11
Comment from : @RSCOZZY

we can buy brand new system😂
Comment from : @jordz3871

Please change the title of this to something like "Don't buy one of these to be used as a modern gaming computer"brbrOn the whole they are good systems If, as a desktop, you just want to do some basic email/web browsing/document writing sort of thingbrThey even make a good system to just be able to experiment with other OSes, and various bits of software with out worrying about messing up your main computer
Comment from : @Andy_FortyTwo

I'm a big believer in these system - with some caveats The notebooks and Lenovo Tiny are the best deals For the most part, if you stick with 8th Gen processors and above, you should be OK These are commercial products and more likely than not, will have the TPM Forget about anything other than casual gaming These systems are designed for office tasks and internet brbrThere is still a lot on the plus side for the right person User and service manuals are readily available Driver support usually lasts for close to the lifetime of the device and the hardware is better At 8th Gen or above, I would recommend an off-lease device over a cheap Acer any day brbrIf you DO want to game on a refurbished off-lease machine, you will want a workstation These are desktops with Xeon (server) processors It will take some research but there is a community out there
Comment from : @kattz753

Hey bro how do I fix usb flash drive not showing in boot option
Comment from : @bubu-us6xh

You do know the reason dell will not sell a computer with with an AMD processor directly to a consumer?
Comment from : @jamie81972

Ok for opnsense, etc
Comment from : @Phil-D83

Did you add in the price for a copy of windows? The big thing with an old office pc is it gives you a real license for windows for next to nothing
Comment from : @timroach5898

Of course you need to do your homework before buying anything That's just common sense Sadly, too many people lack any common sense
Comment from : @MrModamanReviews

Even brand new Dell's are used Had to open up my son's computer to change out RAM Everything in the case had a sticker on it that said refurbished Dell XPS 8300 bought brand new My mother bought a Dell Alienware a couple years ago I cleaned it out and the same thing, all of the stuff in it had a refurbished sticker on the RAM, HardDrive, and GPU These were suppose to be brand new
Comment from : @ComdrStew

I bought several Dell Optiplex 790s for $6 each at a local junkyard, all of them came from the local county School Superintendent's office One, had an encrypted hard drive, had that hard drive decrypted (By Me) I turned that hard drive over to the Kentucky State Police and a Pedophile ring was broken That superintendent, the county judge and most of the courthouse GOP gang wound up going to prison from the Data on that Seagate 320 GB Hard Drive Best $6 I ever paid for a machine BTW I an using that machine now, Upgraded to 32 GB RAM (After updating the BIOS to version A22) with a 2 TB HArd drive (Primary) and a secondary 10 TB drive, and yes the DVD Burner is still there and it's working I run Linux as I see Windows as a Spyware OS not worth the trouble to debloat it I can do much better I do game a bit on it but not that much,since I use this as my main machine for daily use I still have 3 more of these, all upgraded as describedbrJust in case you are wondering, I am located in Hardburly,Ky in rural Perry County As far back in the sticks as you can get
Comment from : @geekhillbilly2636

My daughter's computer has i7 2600 overclocked at 4GHz (motherboard can do that even if it is not a "K" CPU), GTX 1070, 16GB DDR3 It is gaming great I can build her a 10th gen or 13th gen at any given time but there's really no need since she's using it for school, Fortnite, Genshin Impact and alike Last time I used W11 (on my computer) I got some glitches in games so for now we still use W10
Comment from : @Dandan-tg6tj

These older office pc's and servers are great for running virtual machines Many of them come with decent graphics cardsbrYou just have to add storage drives and more memory They are not so obselete as he claims
Comment from : @eciruamekard4440

you're 100 right However in your list, you forgot to add the cost of the CPU cooler Any decent air-based cooler is going to cost around $50 USD I should also mention that most people want to build a PC but do not have the expertise to put it together I typically charge $200-$300 USD depending on the complexity of the build I would have mentioned this is all contingent on the basis that they have the expertise to put it all together because if they don't, its going to cost a minimum of at least $100 USD to get professional assistance with a build
Comment from : @pjasonq

Add on the cost of a CPU cooler
Comment from : @Phil-Sands

Don't forget that you need to get an operating system for the self built system Wimndows 11 will run aboy $100
Comment from : @DavidGillooly

I would probably buy them and turn them into some linux server or nas server
Comment from : @someorother5272

Are landfills not full enough?
Comment from : @dwcinnc

I picked up a dell t 3600 workstation with W10Pro,64Gb samsung server ram in immaculate condition a few months ago for £75I found a better cpu for £20 and it came with an old quadro k4000 graphics cardI had a cheap gtx 1650 and ssd lying around so I threw them in,bypassed the tpm and now have a PC that boots up in just under 30 seconds and will run rings around any entry level laptopI don't play games but Office,Adobe and Affinity programs work just fineI admit I do enjoy updating older PCs and usually giving them away,but this one I'll keep'it has a 650W power supply as well
Comment from : @taxineil1

I get a laugh out of people on Craigslist here in the states, putting computers like those for sale as "vintage" and thinking they're worth real money
Comment from : @eskieguy9355

Some say the office PCs are military spec, I especially like the 1L PCs they are great for emulation and work well for less demanding music production tasks
Comment from : @SproutyPottedPlant

I'm still running three identical Optiplex 790 towers 16gb ram, i7-2600 and a GTX-1660 Super They're ancient but still do everything I ask of them
Comment from : @nodak81

For most people these machines for under £100 are a good option if they dont want to play the latest gamesbrThe cost of a windows licence should also be considered for a self build as should the the process of building the system and installing windows
Comment from : @geoff4383

I have an optiples 9010 with I7, 16 Gig Ram- 500gig SSD and 2T data storage drive- that I DO NOT auto boot (keep it separate from the system til I need it ) it's GREAT- does a wonderful job My service here is only 4gig download speed- so it's plenty good enough for that My next one , however, will be a BEELINK SER6 loaded with 32GIG DDR5 ram- and 2T storage drive with 500Gig OP system driveand high power video (getting ready for the fiberoptic line being installed through this area soon) AND- NO WINDOWS BS-- starting fresh with DEBIAN 12 or Sparky 7 (which is based on Debian 12- SUPER fast , simple- and has great tools in it that I use)
Comment from : @davidwayne9982

refurbs are value king - just buy the mobo and diy - great for smb - no need for gaming or gpu - gaming and ai can wait for the vast majority
Comment from : @shephusted2714

Since I'm putting Linux on them they will work great for me
Comment from : @jscottupton

These days SH PC not worth, a had one years ago but I had to buy graphic card and bring an ssd because not works on YT anymore decentlyafterward I just gave away to someone in need how
Comment from : @raducristiandumitrescu1806

Some of the refurbers are now installing 11 as standard on non-11 capable machines Basically the previous generation or two that missed out but still have TPM2 etc I just got a 16GB 250GB SSD Latitude 7480 with 11 Pro installed for £150 I rebuilt it with 10 for now
Comment from : @jabezhane