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Do not orient a map - when using with a compass

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I’ve never seen your channel before and when you started talking about gordale scar and stopped yourself waffling it made me sad Obviously don’t digress fully but a side story shows personality and I was interested in what you were about to say brbrSubscribed, you seem lovely
Comment from : @ukarmycadet

Algorithm bump
Comment from : @Z7d3nR4

Please! Never stop waffling!
Comment from : @kendrajustice8933

Waffling or not I enjoyed the tid bit of history!@
Comment from : @ryanhooper4660

Have to agree with the previous comment; I liked the 'waffle' Giving a bit of history is always welcome
Comment from : @davidelliott9030

Great videos But please don't give air to the thought that they don't teach history in school anymore Of course they do But whether it is the kind of history that is useful against that which is mandated date cramming - think wives of HVIII - is a separate debate
Comment from : @hendox7117

Why did you close that gate It will confuse other hikers Just leave it open The council might send rangers to close it after a certain hour
Comment from : @bobbylow175

Very informative and love the waffling!
Comment from : @fredbustin3788

Will watch this laterbe a good refresher course etcAs a South African who has never been to the UKit seems hilarious that one can get lost as to us the UK seems so smallBut of course thats just an immediate thought until one thinks of Scotland and WalesWe are hearing terrible things about the hijacking of the UK and the disgusting treatment of you BritsI wish you well and hope you will rid your country of this invasionLiving in a large country like SA and having hiked it for many years its heartbreaking to see how what was one of the safest countries in the world now restrict our movements due to rampant crime and murderOf course as a tourist you will recieve protection and whitewashed tours but the reality is quite differentI am sorry to bring this type of message to your programbut I would hate to see the same happen in the UK countrysideLook after yourselves and if you guys are not scared of the "Englishmans enemy" (the African sun) I can highly reccomend Namibia as good hiking terrainespecially from Windhoek south to the Orange riverNorth is wonderful too but its vehicle safari area unless you dont mind being introduced to predators as part of their menuStay Britishstay the good people we have come to knowIf you guys could have spent time in the old Rhodesia before it became the mess called Zimbabweyou would have met Englih descendants at their best and seen what they achievedKeep on hiking
Comment from : @JohnDuPreez-r4z

I liked the history lesson Thank you
Comment from : @AYowiesPerspective

Got you now, and Leyton Orient is the east of London aswell!!
Comment from : @arundel6640

😂 was listening intently without even realising you were waffling
Comment from : @CB19087

I just love your natural feeling videos Feels like listening to a friend!
Comment from : @vipinbaliga7760

Love the waffles!!
Comment from : @coopdeville777

The army taught me to put the red in the shed it never actually occurred to me that it doesn't matter what way the map is orientated 😂
Comment from : @rileyhartley8371

I was enjoying the historical waffle lol
Comment from : @jsano2754

I like the waffle It's quality material
Comment from : @misterbonzoid5623

Love this guy An expert with no egoistical pseudo special forces posturing Waffle shows interest and joy in what one's doing and wanting to share one's joy and knowledge Brian Cox expands his explanations too as he loves his subject
Comment from : @hs964

What keeps confusing me after watching these kinds of videos, is that sometimes some people align the compass grid lines to the map's when taking a bearing, and others put the red in the shed Am I missing something? Do you put the red in the shed if the map is oriented and align to the grid lines when its not?
Comment from : @hectorgarza6679

Interesting tid bit on orienting your map The military taught me to orient my map first using land beacons before even opening my compas It removes some of the "stupid factor" if you can see that your bearing is actually going in the direction you intend to go
Comment from : @BB-nw6cs

One of the most interesting thing about your walks through the country-side is the stories you tell about the area your are going through My ancestors are from Derbyshire I would love to see you walking through that area in a video I've looked at it via Google Earth, but Google Earth doesn't let you go off the road in "street view" But it looks like beautiful country-side So maybe you could "Walk and Waffle" through there sometime :o)
Comment from : @neilsheldon8355

Hi Wayne can you help with the crossed winds rules please?
Comment from : @theproclaimer4000

We love the waffle!
Comment from : @vjvallance

Just came across your channel a few weeks ago You have a beautiful way of explaining simple and more complex map reading procedures Please don't stop those little anecdotes and lovely stories intermingled in the videos
Comment from : @sm-xd1wr

As an ML I agree with you entirely The map shows which way North is and that's all you need Anyone disagreeing is not understanding the point you are making Thanks for that bit of history on the end about why we call it Orientating as I didn't know that so learnt something new there I'm teaching some Army Cadets next weekend how to Orientate a map using the compass so I'll drop that in there! Btw you do the best vids on navigation I've ever seen I take my hat off to you sir!
Comment from : @HW-kf7hi

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Comment from : @DejanStojicevic-c8j

Sir, I am going to subscribe BECAUSE of the waffling
Comment from : @ladyyatexel

That is exactly the way I was taught The example given was if the weather is really bad and you had to find shelter from the prevailing wind , you are very unlikely be able to orientate your map , so just line up your start and finish points , and turn the compass to point North the lines on the compass will follow the lines on the compass brbrWhen I come out of the shelter I simply walk and rotate until I am ON that bearing brbrNever failed yet
Comment from : @A2Z1Two3

It's not waffle if it's interesting History is always interesting and why we use certain words always gives an insight into that history History is also worth preserving and "wisom of the ages" is not just some throwaway line
Comment from : @Chris_the_Muso

I love the waffling! Don't edit it out please
Comment from : @gregnewberry4813

Almost missed it there Deacon Hill and Pegsdon Kept me going during lockdown
Comment from : @crashnodrog1

I think it’s wanderful when you waffle I do exactly the same, it’s like having a propper conversation, fascinating and great videos Don’t change for anyone, brSince I found your channel it’s all I watch now
Comment from : @davidskett

Love these vids …
Comment from : @paulflood9103

The more waffle the better!
Comment from : @glennmalone2830

Interlacing your great and to-the-point explanations with waffles is what makes them so enjoyable brPlease outtake no waffles!br🙂
Comment from : @marekroszak4893

Thanks, very educational! And I quite enjoy the "waffling" 😊
Comment from : @Multiklaaas

I'm hungry, and now I want waffles 🥞 Or pancakes 😆
Comment from : @MyTube4Utoo

I'm here for the waffle, not disappointed
Comment from : @chulian1819

Great video again as usual and a bit of history never hurts
Comment from : @mike-yp1uk

Very well and simple instructions i have learn,t alot from your vid and i thankyou for that, (your little waffle information is brilliant please don,t edit them out) many thanks Kev (Australia)👍
Comment from : @KevinTerry-v2s

i love it i just love it thank you smart man very smart history is one of the most important things one can learn
Comment from : @mrpopinfresh-w6h

What? I don’t get how you’re getting a true bearing “I rotate the bezel until the orienting lines in the center are pointed directly at the map”… ??
Comment from : @jessegudenschwager7949

Your waffling was wonderful! Thank you for making orienteering much more fun and useful than most channels Cheers!
Comment from : @michaelnovack2217

Please continue 'waffling', it adds a lot to map reading, it also helps put the landscape in a historic context, and makes tech talk less dry 😉
Comment from : @dreamcatchersong

Back in the days when being a forward observer involved binos, a compass and a protractor you never oriented our maps The compass was declinated to point to true North since the grids were born off of true North So you shot your bearing to a feature matching the contour lines, lined up your protractor and drew your azimuth Didn't matter which way your map was orientedbrbrTL;DR - Good explanation here
Comment from : @KyleCowden

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Comment from : @FranklinPhan

Another good video Thanks
Comment from : @tomconway8881

I notice someone making this statement on your videos too Seemed rather strange to me that they would Thanks for helping to clear things up
Comment from : @WR3ND

Really enjoy these informative videos Have been walking in the mountains of northern Arizona for years and have learned many tips What is the host's name?
Comment from : @ThePatrickgavin

Fantastic video It would be great if you made some hiking videos, taking us to some places of interest like Nappa Cross, explaining the history or points of interest, but more importantly, showing the navigation skills in progress as you go along Your tutorial videos are great, but seeing the navigation process in use 'live' along the journey is a great way to repeat the lessons in the context of an actual hike, if you get what I mean - just an idea 😊brbrYou have inspired me to get out with map and compass, and to enjoy the satisfaction of successfully navigating a hike without having to fall back on gps
Comment from : @Shreek17

Waffle away, Map Man! I found the orien part fascinating!
Comment from : @SuzannahShoshannah516

Orienting the map to align with visible landmarks avoids a cognitive somersault Walking navigation is not the same planning an artillery barrage You rarely need better than 5 degree accuracy if you are using Linear Feature technique which is what you should be doing
Comment from : @hallstewart

came for the orient, stayed for the waffles
Comment from : @ar8850

You're the kind of guy I'd pay money to sit down in an audience and listen to you waffle for several hours
Comment from : @Asdayasman

Waffle is a very nice and informative addition to your brilliant content 👍🏻
Comment from : @nueschi

Very enjoyable video and nothing that needs cutting out Great live filming much better than just a sanitised version of it Comes across as having a wide knowledge and thoughtfulness
Comment from : @langdalepass

The map is the frame of reference Moving the frame reference does not alter a reading taken against it
Comment from : @bvds2007

You know, there's all these "survival" videogames, I really wish one of them would incorporate proper usage of a mapbrInstead of just making you die of thirst in 5 minutes and starve to death in 10
Comment from : @Umbra_Nocturnus

Really enjoyed your historical digression
Comment from : @JohnSmith-zy1ur

Love the waffling! adds charm to the explanation and history
Comment from : @douga2665

Keep waffling! You are adding interest!
Comment from : @MikeG-xy7yt

love love love the waffling
Comment from : @Alienalloy

What's it got to do with an ear on an Elephant? Nothing, it's earelephant! 🤪
Comment from : @macgyver5108

"They used to teach history in school I don't know why they stopped"👏👏👏
Comment from : @SlimSlashie

I wish I was your neighbor☮ Cheers!!!
Comment from : @TheBrad605

Love it - waffle and 👌all
Comment from : @johnk3427

How long does it take to orient your map, when you take your bearing the compass is pointing the way you need to go , taking the bearing with the map upside down could lead to some people linning the compass needle north to south and heading off in the opposite direction as that would be the direction on the map
Comment from : @redcruben

As an American, I appreciate the history lesson about your country If you haven’t already done one, would you do a video about magnetic north, true north etc?
Comment from : @stephenparis495

I love waffles☺ Nice video!
Comment from : @frankwitte1022

Good video, I reference to lakes ponds power lines roads streams rivers buildings stone walls town boundaries and elevation markers Etc
Comment from : @dm9860

I always love giving 8 and 10 grid references rather than 6 it's more fun to watch 😂😂
Comment from : @cliffyh466

When you stop the waffle I stop watching It Luverly, its interesting, its stimulating, its FUN, please don’t stop👍🏼🦘🇦🇺
Comment from : @jimjasper9851

Excellent waffling!!
Comment from : @TylerO

Here for the waffle!
Comment from : @LKDesign

Waffle on my friend
Comment from : @kenmilne5987

Thank you
Comment from : @StevenRick-r7o

Great videos
Comment from : @PeterRattfeldt

Thank you for the clue to identifying gateways
Comment from : @rchas1023

Irrelevant means there is no elephant Everyone knows that
Comment from : @vipertwenty249

Loved the video and the history lesson! brI've only ever used a map protractor for taking grid bearings I use my compass almost exclusively for shooting azimuths
Comment from : @ianstewart5125

The compass appeared in Europe in the 13th century but long ocean voyages beyond the Pillars of Hercules had been undertaken thousand years prior to that (Tin was mined in SW Britain and traded to Anatolia in the Bronze Age) Any map orientation prior to the adaption of the compass must have involved dead reckoning and celestial bodies
Comment from : @professorsogol5824

Certain maps, particularly USGS if I'm not mistaken, have grid north declination marked which you need to add into the math for magnetic declination when using this method Thoroughly check the legend, scaling plate, and compass rose to see if this information is published on the map
Comment from : @williamsekely1476