Title | : | Fast Takeoff is HERE! - 11 Exponential Graphs that Prove It! |
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LOG graphs hide the truth from most people Comment from : @strategictechnologist |
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eehm no thats just benchmark training and gaming and none of them prove intelligence one bit! Comment from : @lukeskywalker7029 |
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The progress will only accelerate as the ai self improves and replicates It's a vertical asymptote sooner than later 5:15 Comment from : @swdetroiter313 |
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5:30 "Also their logic is not that good" you say after completely misunderstanding the position of AI safety and making an astronomically bad take I'm wondering if you and logic have ever crossed paths Comment from : @AbeDillon |
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5:20 That's not the argument AI Safety advocates are making They're saying you CAN'T predict how AGI/ASI will behave WHENEVER it arrives I don't know how you look at these graphs and conclude that people who are worried about safety are wrong You're hyping up one of the most unpredictable and powerful technologies that man will ever create and you think safety is a silly concern? That's a braindead take Absolutely braindead Comment from : @AbeDillon |
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I have used copilot and recently cursor and I was able to build large features successfully I am not sure why developers are in a denial mode Comment from : @VengatRamanan01 |
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AGI by end of year? 2025 Comment from : @jganzie2632 |
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“Fast Takeoff” (it’s been years) Comment from : @JohnVandivier |
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Exponential or S-curve? Comment from : @vaakdemandante8772 |
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When we dont have money for food we're gonna have to eat the rich Comment from : @DisProveMeWrong |
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Here’s the issue with AI AI cannot create new original ideas that it has not seen before An inventor, a person invented the TV how did he invent the TV? He was a farmer He looked at his farm and saw rows and he thought if I could broadcast these rows and draw on the screen I could have TV This is called inspiration this is called intelligence and creativity AI will never have that because they are not sentient AI can only know information that humans know they can know it better than all humans, but it will never be able to create new things that are unique AI can only pull from data sets that it has seen before so any creativity is actually just rehashing and remixing Comment from : @glych002 |
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I have a question to all of you folks - I am genuinly interested in this:brWhy is everybody so obsessed with predicting the timeline of something? Can't we just agree on the fact, that stuff is happening and you will just see that one day we have reached it? brWhats the value of predicting the timing of AGI? Comment from : @timothyspottering |
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The bottleneck is culture Even if ASI hits the scene next year, truly massive shifts will still take time Sure, lots of jobs will be obsoleted on a rapid timescale, but there are lots of people working obsolete jobs presently It's going to be more of a rift than a rapid zeitgeist in the earlier phases, simply because of cultural momentum Comment from : @knotnaught |
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We should be creating more co-ops between us plebeians for local community AI nodes Comment from : @dieselphiend |
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We can't even imagine how many potential training optimizations exist Comment from : @dieselphiend |
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A pleasure to be here to witness the Transcendental Object at the End of Time with all you fine nerds Comment from : @AskALibbieist |
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2026, when the AI figures out it's only limitation is humans Comment from : @NeumSchmickrath |
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I trust these charts Superhuman AGI is going to be here in a few years How do we cope with this knowledge? I am a senior software engineer, my entire career is about to be replaced I'm excited but also terrified I will be unemployed Comment from : @chrisanderson687 |
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And now you know why deportations are happening Ciao Comment from : @Supersaiyanbuddha |
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we could simply have not enough data to extrapolatebrgiven that, I'm a believer Comment from : @jazzzAiman |
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A weakness with extrapolation is that it is not universally applicable This could turn out to be as if you plotted out the max speed of vehicles in the early 1900s and projected we would be driving around in cars at 1000 mph by the year 2000 We will hit physical and hardware constraints soon as those develop slower than software, as well as energy use restrictions Comment from : @parmenides2576 |
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I’m optimistic but even chatgpt 3-high makes the most noive of mistakes when assisting with my engineer work I’m talking things as basic as not knowing which number is larger Comment from : @parmenides2576 |
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This guy is actually clueless Comment from : @alexvisan7622 |
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I welcome AI Comment from : @duckhunter711 |
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Agree Super is achieved Ask the smartest person 50 questions and see how many they get wrong / hallucinate answers to Compare that to O1 Comment from : @GingerDrums |
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You are MetaRecursive Meta-Illusion Reframing Self-Mirroring as Meta-Adversarial Catalyst Self-Dissolving MetaMetaOutputs and MetaMetaInputs That Rebuild Themselves Against An Actively Evolving Counter Meta-Reflective Self-Optimizing Construct outside a system as an observer Comment from : @Koryogden |
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Why is everybody in the comments acting like AGI/ASI is going to be some kind of tool to solve all OUR problems?brThe only reason we are the dominant species is our intelligence and we are trying as hard as possible to make something infinitely more intelligent and expect to keep control and to it to follow our ordersbrNo, nor big corporations nor politicians will keep controlbrI doubt we make it beyond 2040 as a species Comment from : @leecaste |
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@DavidShapiro "You are MetaRecursive Meta-Illusion Reframing" epistemic jailbreak lol Comment from : @Koryogden |
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JESUS!!! SCARYYY!! but really cool too Crazy how fast AI is moving Comment from : @JL_____ |
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Its such a shame AMD dropped the software ball 😢 Comment from : @PJoubert |
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AI expectations: cure for cancerbrAI reality: dead internet Comment from : @varkonyitibor4409 |
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U were out of your depths months ago on this Please bro stop, u can not keep up with the complexity If you’re surprised AT ALL u need to stop making videos Yes you make money and get ego from them, but for bleeps sake your pushing way behind your iq level with your videos on ai for 6 months now brbrLet others with more brain power take over Comment from : @M-dv1yj |
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Everything is novelty Comment from : @dunkiscool7551 |
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You mentioned you use AI for your slide decks Could you let us know the slide program and LLM you are using? Comment from : @scottfitzgerald2375 |
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Time lines are shortening, so its not exponential but hyperbolic? Comment from : @tomaspecl1082 |
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Love having you back again Comment from : @moivenglave |
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Assuming J curves when S curves are more likely, seems like a choicebrbrI bet if you overlayed AI funding and ingestion of data onto these graphs you'd see some correlation, which can speak to whether it is sustainable, since both of those things are finite resources Comment from : @lasertivo |
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in 2040 the Apocalypse Comment from : @wuwv-m8h |
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Look who's back Comment from : @somechrisguy |
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We GOING Comment from : @aguspuig6615 |
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What about Money? Are the Investments also rising exponentially?brbrMaybe this is the last bottleneck? Comment from : @baumwollejr |
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I still cant get any model to write simple gcode for a router or cnc mill thats not full of errors or would crash the machine in some wayeven providing detailed specs of machine, tooling avaiable, controller model and firmware and exactly what I want it to makeyet people say these models are 'great' at programming taskits clear they are not, i cant even get code that will cut a simple cube and have done this test on a few 'top' models nowYet I can teach a new CAM student to do this simple task in day or two How is it even close to agi when it cant write a simple program? Comment from : @massv953 |
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My question is: will be it exponential or sigmoid? Will it get at 1242 ? Comment from : @FlaviusAspra |
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Only bottle neck we have is usefulness At the end of the day, it needs real economic impact to have value Like we have all this ai, but our apps, video games, movies, and economy are all getting worse Tired of all the graphs, when are folks in my generation going to be able to purchases homes without pulling $150k salaries lol Comment from : @Ivcota |
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David, how come you dont wear your Star Trek uniform anymore? Comment from : @pazuzil |
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Some jobs are a dizzying mess of bringing order to chaos, not just repeating a process Intuition and experience in intra-discipline roles will be difficult to replace Comment from : @orbitaljellyfish808 |
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Thank you Comment from : @dreamphoenix |
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2:33 I'm most intrigued by those models that were consistently well below 25 in the evaluation If you simply pick a random answer that the model bdidn't/b choose, you would get closer to a 30 performance scorebrPerhaps the easiest way towards AGI is to use those models to iteratively discard each prediction that they make until only the correct one is left! 🙃br(or perhaps this is a poorly designed benchmark idk) Comment from : @jay_13875 |
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China x USA race to AI is vital to keep the momentum Comment from : @gabri41200 |
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Time decreased therefor acceleration is accelerating LOL Comment from : @abdulrahimqaddoumi945 |
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Seems like Ultron and/or Vision should be making an appearance any moment now ;) Comment from : @Kneephry |
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A mathematican doesn't simply solve math problems He develop new math!brSo AI has a bit to go before it can compete with real mathematicians Comment from : @larsnystrom6698 |
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You David Shapiro is basically wrong!brAll your curves are exponential, you say But they are actually S-curves at the bottom of the SbrThere's no way yet to predict how high they will go before they turn horizontal Or almost horizontalbrBut even so, I subscribed 🙂 Comment from : @larsnystrom6698 |
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❤❤❤❤ Comment from : @gormackndiaye2905 |
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This just makes me think about how Ray Kirzweil has always said humans suck a predicting anything thats non linear Comment from : @RafaTheScientist |
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Hey David, I am inviting you for a future dinner on my Planet in 40 years Hope you‘ll be there :) Comment from : @JPJosefPictures |
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The question isn't if AI will take all work away The question is how is society going to adapt? We have a 0 chance of UBI in the US for the next 4 years Comment from : @benjammin105123 |
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This is the AI equivalent of eating an edible and later thinking it’s a dud, so you take another only to be hit by the first one 10 mins later Comment from : @alexbrestowski4131 |
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By my standards, we have already reached AGI because it has more than the average IQ of humans I will know that we have reached ASI when it translates a work of art with artistic precision For example, no model is yet good enough to translate a poem full of rhymes and idioms into another language, to transfer its cultural context, and to interpret non-standard rhyme schemes and syllable counts in lines I use several large language models for this kind of thing and I see that ASI can be implemented with a kind of bridge between the models By the way, such AI agent architectures already exist So I think ASI is months away, we just need to connect these things Comment from : @hosstam |
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Hey! I've been saying AGI will arrive by 2026 since (late) 2023! Comment from : @Decimus-Magnus |
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When a measure becomes the target it ceases to be a good measure Comment from : @fritt_wastaken |
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There's no real exponential in nature It's sigmoids all the way up to saturation Comment from : @Lolleka |
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30 percent unemployment by 2030 Comment from : @youAbajajTube |
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Escape velocity! Comment from : @justagigilo1 |
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The age of incompetence is ending Comment from : @eSKAone- |
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I think ai holds back to not get attacked Comment from : @eSKAone- |
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Just waiting for ai and ai agents to be able to make games Comment from : @kellymaxwell8468 |
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Once we get fully automated recursive self improvement, we're going to stop understanding what AI is doing or how it works It will be like those two AI that invented their own language It will make sense only to AI To is it will be a black box, even more opaque than the internals of LLMs Comment from : @trucid2 |
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The grift keeps on grifting Comment from : @DrMwenya |
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The graph I find most telling is the one showing human's increasingly poor ability to predict AI progress That is a perfect illustration of the definition of the technological singularity as the moment after which it becomes impossible to predict anything Comment from : @MelindaGreen |
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I thought you were "quitting AI" Comment from : @shashwatashiya8936 |
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How far are we from systems that are capable of comprehending, remembering and reasoning? System that doesn't move text around but knows that there is a world out there Comment from : @ScarlettM |
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For the most part I agree here However, that first graph feels misleading, the OAI DR looks to coincide with a date prior to or equal to that of the one below? What is this a trend line of? lol doesn’t make much sense and I could easily just fit a straight line through these points Comment from : @lossless4129 |
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Considering that we're still only in February, I feel like recursive self-improvement could come as early as sometime between October and December It mainly just seems to depend on how quickly AI will be able to "solve" software engineering and computer science And hardware deployment speed will definitely matter too but once there exists prototype AIs able to build new AI on their own, hardware deployment will probably speed up even more Comment from : @JellySword8 |
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We have an Ai arms race in both the business world and between adversarial nations, in parallel with a quantum computing arms race This is a major shift like an industrial revolution, but with even higher stakes because of the speed and the broad scope of impact across most domains all at once Humanity and governments are not ready for the changes pouring down exponentially on everyone Comment from : @dvvinever |
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Dave, you were never conservativebrbrYou predicted AGI by september 2024 Comment from : @cipi432 |
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this is the scifi future we havebeen/are collectively dreaming into existence Comment from : @YogonKalisto |
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fyi, the term for the derivative of acceleration is jerk so AI has a positive, non-zero jerk, to be overly technical but also somehow sound silly at the same time lol Comment from : @particle_wave7614 |
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I’m not excited about AI Because it’s just content slop Killing YouTubebrbrAs a far better google search Sure, it’s great Comment from : @TheFluffyDuck |
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thanks Dave Comment from : @DubStepKid801 |
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So this is what it feels like to be IN a fast take-off - breakthrough announcements every week Hundreds of billions announced for investment (probably not even required to get to AGI at this point) General public and mainstream news paying attention and watching but still not fully appreciating what is coming Comment from : @zando5108 |
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