This Rod Fountain Finally Proves Me Right

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Title	:	This Rod Fountain Finally Proves Me Right
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Comment from : @jdthood

the real question is "does physics operate by consensus"brbrand maybe, it is
Comment from : @blind1337nedm

Gravitational potential energy provides all the energy Since the part of the chain still inside the container begins its journey going straight up to get over the lip The faster it gets going the more the verticle inertia tends to over shoot the lip Verticle motion centrifugal force plus conservation of energy neatly explains this phenomina It also very much lends itself to intuition or gut feeling
Comment from : @danacraig2535

the chain becomes a wave
Comment from : @justinjoy3321

That algorithm is learning to become even more stupid after I already said I watched that video the last time it said that AI can only be as stupid as the people that program it!
Comment from : @AndyNicholson-ij5pz

I've commented on this before, but I've yet to notice a response If you look at old harpoon footage, you see the same thing Instead of gravity affecting the chain, you have the mechanism that shoots out the harpoon The harpoon is attached to a rope (relevantly, it's not a chain) The rope arcs over the edge of the ship following the harpoon but never colliding with the edge of the boat I think this harpoon footage is the earliest evidence of this phenomenon Why is it never discussed>?
Comment from : @Brillig2

You should have played gollum
Comment from : @kyebean

11:50 Think this sideways experiment I think proves that the "kick back force" exists But repeat it several times and try to get different fountain hieghts and check them against the calculationbrAlso repeat the horizontal experiment with a spaced out chain You should get zero reading on the force gage and no fountain hieght That would put it to bed completely Right?
Comment from : @divermike8943

You're right The other guy's wrong
Comment from : @JustCallMeGonda

I think the fountain is cause by the effect of the pulling force of the falling chains,it's like a whiplash
Comment from : @HenryRazon-x5s

I love you both, equally, but for different reasons 🥰
Comment from : @donniecatalano

Is it settled now?
Comment from : @elonmarkuspagaragan5941

The first thing I saw about the rod version was that there had to be a force on it because the rob wpuld occasionally flick down from the fountain Funnily I think the rid fountain proves you right on that basis alone
Comment from : @blendervendor2220

I never studied physics or whatever so with all due respect, but it seems to me the answer is really simple brbrSince the chain has some weight to it and making a u turn, so basically half a circle, there is a cetrifugal force acting on that part of the chain, but since it's only half a circle this will pull the chain up enough to make the center of rotation go up brbrI must say I didn't watch ALL of the video's but I have not seen anyone mention it and got bored eventually by it not being mentioned as far as I watched So excuse me if someone already proposed this idea
Comment from : @googlepleasedonttakemyaccountf

It’s like a car trailer affect trailer will at points in time travel faster than the car and push the car and vice versus
Comment from : @adzy2655

This is similar to jumping with a skateboard I finally got a good idea of the phenomenon
Comment from : @bit_fisica

It's a chain syphon The chain is flexible enough to flow like a fluid The vortex is the lowest energy configuration for the transfer of material 9:58 looks like a tornado coming out of the jar
Comment from : @manlyadvice1789

The chain does that because it wants to be a chain that does that
Comment from : @Voidy123

IT ALL MAKE SENSE - ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOMOULD!
Comment from : @VRDaD

It’s refraction
Comment from : @MrMychan02

As a hardwood floor expert, I can say with certainty that Steve is correct, unless ElectroBoom is
Comment from : @michaelschwartz9485

I dont understand anything
Comment from : @astralprogression8536

Maybe considering the wave induced in the chain would yield insight The wave speed will differ for different kinds of “chains” How about a bungee cord, a fiber of rubber, a wire, for example?brbrI suspect that the question won’t be resolved until the experiment is performed with a chain made of glassy metal in vacuum Nile Red needs to get to work
Comment from : @maxenielsen

I think this whole thing is an instrumentation issue It is really difficult to actually measure all the variables
Comment from : @jasonchecinski9741

Yes One of the best crossovers :D
Comment from : @crazyivan030983

Steve good, Medhi evil Got it!
Comment from : @dawidlaszuk

The chains go up because they’re excited to get out of the container, so they push each other up because they don’t want to wait their turn😂
Comment from : @ziggytheghost

I want to see the chain land in a second container and see it started all over again Lol
Comment from : @ziggytheghost

Y el efecto látigo??😊
Comment from : @JorgeMendoza-hz7nz

Indiana Jones favourite video of all time 😅🙌🏼🫶🏼
Comment from : @slammer3559

Could you run the experiment inside a faraday cage ? Another experiment: use a chain with interleaved plastic sections ?
Comment from : @gabojm

Has anyone explored resonance? Look @ the hight increase compared to the frequency of direction change I would love to see a rod setup with different lengthed loops or loop legs or whatever, feeding an out of phase "pulse" and measuring the effect on height increase by comparison to the in phase direction changes would be fascinating If already preformed please direct :) Love you guys!!!
Comment from : @thebenchdiy6046

Why don't you just place a load cell on the lattice and measure the kickback force?
Comment from : @materialflowsolutions7407

Is it not just the energy wave imparted by the initial "throwing" motion?
Comment from : @Doktor47

There is a whole playlist of this omg
Comment from : @alejrandom6592

There's nothing more beautiful than science people arguing through youtube videos Love you guys
Comment from : @alejrandom6592

But what happens to the fountain height if you start with a larger gauge chain and gradually tapper to a smaller chain?
Comment from : @YoungDson77

There's a wave traveling through the chain It all feels like an analogy for signal reflections and cable termination I wanna see tests with a chain that has progressively more mass 😃
Comment from : @RaquelFoster

I only came in on your last video, but I could tell that you were going after the most impactful reason behind what was happening Electroboom is great at electronics, and is certainly more willing to admit when he's wrong, but you just happened across the answer sooner, and it is a complex system that is difficult to observe; hence being difficult to demonstrate
Comment from : @freescape08

This seems obvious and silly If the chain needs to be lifted up out of a cup or over a rod or off a platform, that chain link has mass and velocity thus momentum The momentum doesn't magicay disappear once its out of the container, continues up some and the kinetic energy becomes potential energy before fallingbrbrEach link pulls the one behind it There is little air resistancebrbrThere is no mysterious new force coming from the container making the chain jump and this is easily proven with a scale, because if it is pushing up on the chain it must push down on the earth The force required for a high enough jump could be double the weight of the chain and the scale would easily measure that If you doubt it, double the height causing a 4x increase in required force If you still doubt it, double the height again
Comment from : @mech_magic

Does this work with really long noodles?
Comment from : @oasisoflasvegas

Why not use a manual scale though? That has quite fast reading and displaying as far as I'm aware Might be tricky to calibrate to acceptable levels I suppose
Comment from : @johanrojassoderman5590

This competitive behavior isn't helping to get down to the bottom of what is causing this fountain, I wonder if the argument between you two is just over the distinction of what the words mean, I don't consider the cup or rod or whatever the fountain forming chain is being dropped from off as pushing against or supplying energy too the chain, but I know what you mean and I think I agree, It's hard to put into words for me, I can visualize the cause of the fountain, but as usual I can't understand the explanations from scientists, like physics professors, everything is in formula and written down, this is just a waste of time for me, not only am I uneducated I spent my early education disregarding or not reading the textbook writing that I was copying down in my book from the blackboard and later the whiteboard brI'm dyslexic so I was copying 3 letters or numbers or symbols at a time, now that I have learnt how to read I am glad I didn't receive this lesson of competitions value, I see the the effect it has on you, on everyone, it's the reason why scientists argue against the truth, though they don't know their ego is inhibiting their minds ability to consider the thoughts of othersbrEinstein based his understanding of gravity on a static universe and argued against Edwin Hubble until he was facing undebatable evidence, still to this day people will refuse to admit Einstein was wrong about gravity, instead we are looking for 'Dark Matter' and a theory to unify the nonsense ideas that their education was built on, education teaches ( boys, mainly as they are naturally prone to competitive behavior) to win arguments instead of, trying to figure out something, to get to the truth, everything mankind has achieved is down to working together, not against each other, I guess most people will disagree with me, as the western world has been thanking competitivity for flying to the moon, like it achieved anything worthwhile, your all conditioned to accept whatever your told and whatever you hear that is different, well that is best ignored
Comment from : @junkiescumbag6550

If you use an analog scale you could see if there is a wobble in the needle
Comment from : @Justus_Patrick

If you do the experiment during a parabolic plane ride you could do it with everything in the same reference frame and with no friction from other solid objects Hell do it in a vacuum during a parabolic plane ride
Comment from : @Justus_Patrick

Loving the science beef It's giving Lemaître vs Hoyle vibes
Comment from : @Benwut

The bead fandom is heating up
Comment from : @DatOneGallia

Ever heard of inertia and centrifugal force? As the falling mass of chain sliding over the rim is being constantly accelerated by gravity and that the falling mass of chain increases as it is being fed from the resting pile, it pulls each of the resting balls off the chain pile upwards and over the rim with more force than the previous ball which translates to acceleration So, the next resting ball is yanked upwards with more force than the previous resting ball and is rising faster Once the velocity of the resting ball, now yanked upwards, passes a threshold it flies upwards clearing the rim of the beaker due to inertia rather than just being dragged over the rim, before gravity and the pull from the falling mass bends it over In addition to inertia propelling each ball upwards centrifugal force billows out the shape of the turn-over from rising to falling brThe resting pile of chain is not pushing the balls up - that is muddy thinking gentlemen and would lead to perpetual motion Nice try, no bananabrDr O
Comment from : @dennyoconnor8680

nobody:braverage physicist debate:
Comment from : @KAI_Railboi

The footage of the digital readout was a bit of a gaffe, as what you would need is direct recording of the data at full polling rate, rather than the SIGNIFICANTLY lower reporting rate of the display, combined with the liquid crystal element activation lag In all other repects though, this back & forth between you and Mehdi is one of the more inspiring displays of intellectual rigour and dilligence I've seen recently This series should be taught in schools as an illustration that education isn't about iwhat/i to think, but ihow/i to think
Comment from : @InservioLetum

I am convinced, as an engineering graduate, that it is a magical current
Comment from : @fernandogarcia-vd2pt

Revisiting this "argument" two and a half years later, I still feel it's the BEST analytical debate I've ever seen 😹😻👍
Comment from : @DaellusKnights

Now this This is what science is all about
Comment from : @spilledink849

its a wave force same effect that happens when u whip your whip to make a pop you bend the whip super fast changing its direction and forcing the tip to break sound barrier the bend is what you see here what you see is force traveling trough a chain/flexible element
Comment from : @REDFRAQ

That problem was an exam problem in a subject in a grade in mechanical engineering i had 35 years ago, we had to find the falling stable speed of the chain I passed the exam, but I made the assumption that the final speed was stable, didnt demonstrate it, but I found it, I mean I found the solution
Comment from : @benitodeorte2715

What goes down must first go up End of story No one is going to make money with such a short story though
Comment from : @DinoDiniProductions

If only there was a Method we could use to test hypothesis and come up with a way to actually prove your hypothesis brbrWe could call it the Scientific Method
Comment from : @Itssmial_Ova

I don't think you have it yet The answer is in the chains connection and the type of connectionbrAnd the force they are placing on each other brAs the chain speeds up the force increases causing it to rise higher The BEND AT THE TOP YANGING ON THE ONE BELOW IT AND PULLING IT UP A LITTLE AND ALL THINGS INCLUDED THE FORCE INCREASES AND WHA-LA PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I'M RIGHT
Comment from : @aleasflowers7285

It sound like you need a cain with far less stifness How about a chain made from perfectly round rings instead of balls
Comment from : @rubikfan1

This back-and-forth between "MEHDI WAS RIGHT AND YOU'RE WRONG" and "MOULD IS CORREKT" shows that Youtube watchers can be convinced anything, so long as it's interesting for them
Comment from : @floppy8568

I like the work you've done on this but I feel like you are trying to boil this down to a single effect rather than understand the effects It's possible there is some small force down through the chain but there will also be a force pulling UP on the chain from a wave being formed and the change of inertia Watch this video of a man cracking a huge chain whip, you will see that once the wave is formed he continues to move in the opposite direction increasing the "downward" force on the chain, yet the wave continues to move faster away from him This is very similar to what you see in this phenomenon with gravity continuously pulling down on the chain keeping the wave going or even increasing the wave length until the forces balance out br wwwyoutubecom/shorts/fYPqs69_5g4
Comment from : @TheJunkernaut

What about a force from the other end of the chain?
Comment from : @cubes_art7956

I'm convinced this is just inertia Like, the beads on the chain resist a change in direction, and hence are launched higher
Comment from : @CravenMaaaaaaaaa

Steve and that Electroboom guy, admit it: This is not really about the true physics of chain fountains It's you two just making fun about confusing us viewers
Comment from : @undefined40

Centrifugal force Don't overthink it
Comment from : @stephenkohler3472

I already am decided Omissions of applicable forces immediately means omission of fact and thus if you cannot accept what is already true how can you accept what could be?
Comment from : @voidax99

just stumbled on this video, but i think its because of the tension from the lower part of the chain, since it apearse to rise higher the more chain is out
Comment from : @rogerescoto7675

I feel like there’s a sinusoidal vibration traveling opposite of the chains direction that can only continue back along the chains path by pushing up against the pile ie when the wave ends at the pile all it can do it push the chain upwards hopefully that makes sense You can see a continuous wave in the chain that stays next to the pot that indicates a force traveling the opposite direction of the chain
Comment from : @glitchy8429

Atoll makesense, Midhi
Comment from : @levinunemaker4365

Can we not weigh the container with the chain in it as it's emptying and compare that to what we know it should way without any 'push back' force? That should give you the answer, yes?
Comment from : @ctakitimu

It's called 'tethered impulse' Steve obv isn't a fly-fisherman But yeah we cheat by using parabolic rods rather than beakers to achieve this effect OTOH Steve doesn't ask his bead-chain to fly 30 metres into a head-wind
Comment from : @timapple6586

I got a feeling that experimenting with precise laying of chain will start to reveal some of the mechanisms that cause the peak to rise,
Comment from : @garyrichardson

What if we do the rod test but dampened the rod by wrapping It in foam ?
Comment from : @stiofanocathmhaoil9324

if you notice the effect is also applied on the rolling cylinder that means at some point the chain is moving faster than the cylinder itself and i didnt see you talking about that
Comment from : @delpietroify