Title | : | Should You Buy Gold | Warren Buffett Vs Ray Dalio |
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Warren and Charlie are just old fuddy duddies who got extremely lucky being born in the richest country on Earth AND at the right time With the Reserve Currency crap, et al et al Comment from : D Mohan |
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Buffet is the ultimate ruthless capitalist And the ultimate insider of all times not the best investor of all times make no mistake Dalio much more honest man Comment from : Clyde |
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Buffet is more wealthy than Dalio, so Buffet is right It's plain to see Comment from : Macoutes Gabber |
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If gold has no intrinsic value like what Buffet said, why do central banks accumulates gold??? Comment from : roltab |
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Gold had been suppressed for many years by the elite thru gold ETF manipulation so the P1,900/oz rate is not the real value Once economic crisis will kick in you will see the real correction gold will show everybody who is the BOSS! Comment from : roltab |
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This is one of the few key areas I diverge from Buffett Ray Dalio knows exactly what he's talking about and I would even urge holding closer to 35 or more in gold replacing the stock to bond portfolio with stock/gold and maintaining an optimal balance This strategy has worked phenomenal for me for years and all credit due to Dr Paul Belanger, definitely buy that man's book when you get the chance Comment from : Player Zero |
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Warren should mention all that stocks gains adjusted for inflation Comment from : miri |
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If gold is not profitable long term, how does it retain its purchasing power ? It is imperative that gold (and silver) are in fact an "investment" if expected to increase in dollar terms in order to retain that purchasing power over time Dalio seems to assert owning gold primarily to "diversify", but who wants to hold a non-performing or even losing asset class just for the sake of "being diversified" ? On that point, Buffet is correct in his stance on metals "Breaking even" is often a questionable prospect once time-value, related taxes and costs, and near record buy-in price levels and premiums are taken into consideration Liquidity can also be an issue in an overly hyped metals market as was obvious in the peak markets of '79-'80 when everyone from dealers to refiners were offering many percentages below actual spot prices in order to hedge against possible (and expected) market reversals as the mania began to subside Selling at any significant loss can hardly be viewed as being truly liquid And preppers aside, how many times have we found it necessary to revert to barter with precious metals ? What is the likelyhood of such a scenario in the future without some semblence of a monetary currency base being in place for the masses ? Keep in mind that the precious metals pundits and shills across the internet concentrate on incoming gloom and doom scare tactics for good reason, to SELL YOU on their concepts and wares in trade for your "worthless dollars" One of the most popular youtube "Chief Financial Analyst" shills recently admitted that in reality, she owned absolutely NO BULLION Amazingly her company hypes "graded and certified" common gold in their fancy little plastic holders at much inflated prices for "worthless dollars" to the gullible and ignorant who fall for her "expert" lectures Comment from : Ralph Bryant |
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I agree with Dalio completely It's how we use gold The value is subtle Gold saves people in times of emergency Warren Buffett has got this wrong Just because he was not interested in gold that does not make it general advice Gold survives companies It sustains legacies that invest in it He got carried away by his success Dalio's advice is more sensible, one that people must take a cue from A part of one's investment should be in gold because it preserves value, ushures in stability and it is possible to make money from gold It has to done differently by trading in stones rather than through monetary systems Comment from : Ajay Seshadri |
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I AGREE WITH RAY DALIO, HERE IS WHYbrVENEZUELA SAW A CRASH TO THEIR CURRENCY NOW ALL THEY BUY ARE THE NEEDS, NOT WANTS LIKE A CANDY BAR HAD THEY HELD SILVER OR GOLD, THEY WOULD HAVE THE SAMEBOR MORE BUYING POWER THAN WHEN THE BOLIVARES COLLAPSED THIS IS WHAT MRBUFFET IS NOT EXPLAINING YES, INVESTING IN A BUSINESS IS A WAY BETTER RETURN ON INVESTMENT, BUT GOLD AND SILVER WILL GIVEBYOU THAT POWER ONCE MONETARY SYSTEM COLLAPSE HAPPENS LIKE VENEZUELA! Comment from : saul jimenez |
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Short period : BUFFETbrLong period : DALİO Comment from : Kara Kartal |
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gold produces nothing, its not hard to understand Comment from : PepeMania |
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"It may be that today gold has become the exclusive ruler of life, but the time will come when man will again bow down before a higher god" - Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" (My Struggle) Comment from : Storm Rider |
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WARREN BUFFET IS A WEASEL Comment from : Homer Flesher |
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Gold is saving, not investing It's drivel and nonsense to say you don't know what the intrinsic value of gold is Gold is very useful for lots of things, and it's value is very stable, at least for the last 6,000 years But having intrinsic value doesn't interest speculators, they want to get rich quick, not preserve the capital they have Which is fine, but, they should not cloud the issue by talking nonsense and drivel In order to have the chance to get rich quick, you have to put your capital at risk If you have a portion of your capital for which you want to minimize risk, gold and silver are great options Comment from : James Edward S |
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Can’t you buy farmland with gold lol Comment from : Nick James |
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ALL IS ILLUSION ,, MATRIX BULLSHIT IN A LOW VIBRATION 3-D SHITHOLE TEMPORAL, MATERIAL , DEADLY GAMES Comment from : Michael McCray |
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Yeah but if the dollar collapses those assets will not be productive anymore Precious metals on the other hand, will become the most productive assets in the world Comment from : Tyler Shoemaker |
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If everyone buys gold , silver and crypto Buffet goes bust because the Ponzi scheme fails Comment from : proffpuff |
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I can run off with a gold bar if something bad happens I can’t run of with farm land Comment from : Milo Henry |
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hey guys, I don't know anything about investing and I'm looking to invest, any help? As well who can I reach out to? Comment from : Johnson Clover |
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At least buffet admits that people are right to run from fiat currency because of constant devaluation brbrHowever I do not agree with his examples of the farm or the candy IMHO The farm would be nice to have and has the ability to produce a profit for the 100 years as he suggests However he does not mention the ever rising taxes on that land, the equipment needed to work the land, the man hours , seed and the big factor or having the weather cooperates to have a profitable season with that said land Many farms are in need of liquidity and need additional infusion of cash to keep operating until they sell at the end of the year So a farm is a constant drain and fight to make said profit, it’s an apples to oranges comparison as gold you can hold onto it as a store of wealth A farm even if good soiled and drained is still going to drain money from you yearly in taxes and upkeep Also not many people could buy a 1000 acre farm even if I just bought the land and leased it out to someone to work it I can always slowly stack gold brbrAs far as the candy where you will just double the price and make the same money and people will pay for it I disagree I disagree because your smart, your hire smart people, and I’m confident that if you could double the price and make about the same amount of sales you would do it Wages may go up to a degree, but not nearly as much as the CPI which is notoriously low for political reasons It’s been proven time and time again that when economy gets tough some of the first things to get cut is drinking and eat out Yes people will still drink and eat and smoke, but the percentage who do it out which is considerably more expensive will decrease significantly Comment from : Kelly Reynolds |
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There are large chunks of time where Buffet is more correct There are smaller chunks of time where Dalio is more correctbrbrAnd actually, Dalio admits that the timing on Gold is difficult to pinpoint, so his view that one should always have some gold is likely very soundbrbrI think it is also true that we are close to one of those "chunks of time" where gold is very good for the holderbrbrI did not own any physical gold or silver 2 years agobut I have 15 of my net worth in the two metals (physical, that I hold) right now And I am very glad to be holding that metal right now Comment from : Auntie Fiat |
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The interference of the fed in the gold market is now more difficult since Basel 3 They cant shoet the futures market without having the physical for deluvery now brSecondly its in the interest of the fed to keep foreign markets using the dollar at the expense of gold thus keeping gold trading in a range Gold and silver are heavily manipulated Comment from : timi ilott |
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Gold is actually very abundant Many countries have vast quantities of unexplored gold under their soil It is deliberately not unearthed to keep gold value artificially high Comment from : antin |
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DON'T LISTEN TO WARREN BUFFETT!!! Comment from : Arnljot |
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Comment from : Michael Higgins |
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I'd sooner buy dirt in the north to sell it to people with clay for earth in the south than investment in yellow metal😂 Comment from : Edward |
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yes long term you should invest in businesses But for inflationary times where the economy is down putting your fiat into gold/silver is not a bad idea while waiting for opportunity to strike Comment from : S G |
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The price of a nice suit in grams of gold is the same in 1910 as it is today Gold is cash that they can’t inflate It’s about maintaining purchasing power Buffet misses the point It’s not meant to be an investment It occupies the position in your portfolio that cash occupies Comment from : TimmyTitan |
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Buffet is lying through his teeth He knows better, and he just wants people to buy stocks in his dozens of companies brThe use of gold in industry, particularly in high tech, is increasing which means that quantities held in reserves could decrease Gold is a productive asset 'cos it can be used as collateral for cash and will yield profits, just like land, real estate and oil brGold and land are the two oldest forms of wealth and that is not going to change unless human economic needs change in a fundamental way Comment from : el-sig |
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Warren just want you invest in stock (particularly his companies) just like monopolized Nevada energy and he was and still is against Solar Comment from : Howard Sanford |
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I’m a bit of a gold bug but Warren killed it here Comment from : EricSmyth4Christ |
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Gonna have to go with Dalio on this one Comment from : Blueprint_1776 |
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An Iraqi had 100 ounce of gold at 2002, 20 years later he still has that 100 ounce of gold Cant say the same for his farmland or his whole nation Comment from : Ash ez |
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Nobody wants candy when they can't buy food Comment from : Cody Siehr |
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The answer is: Warren is correct Comment from : Frank M |
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Nothing wrong with diversifying your portfolio with precious metals Comment from : Gold Retirement Solutions |
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gold is money, money should not be piled up, just like blood is money and humans are the economy and accumulating money will cause disease Comment from : My Stories Videos |
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Gold is a currency It is still by all evidence a premier currency, where no fiat currency including the dollar at it current state can match it Comment from : Ally Ivanov |
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Gold is always a good ideaalways always alwayslast year gold price was 50000 for 1KGthis year the price is 57000 Comment from : Cool Mania |
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Warren buffet is a good investor Yet the guy lives in a small home and I guess he thinks you can take that money beyond the grave Hoarding it instead of buying stuff and using it is ridiculous You accumulate wealth to use it, yet he talks about an asset sitting there You can say the same about life If you made billions at some point spend a lot and stimulate the economy Comment from : MrGlenspace |
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If Buffets Dad put $1000 cash in a safe in 1940, that $1,000 might buy you domestic round trip airfare today If he would have used that $1,000 to buy gold at the time (@ $30/oz) he could have bought 33 ounces which could be liquidated today for $66,000 or purchase a very nice used Sesna That is the value of Gold in a fiat ponzi economic system Comment from : Nick Robison |
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Can someone explain to me what a portfolio is ? Comment from : Supa Disa |
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I stick to warrens advice Comment from : alo300wsm sako |
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This video creates an artificial debate: Ray Dalio is not suggesting gold as a profitable long-term investment, but rather as a mechanism for hedging against inflation in (a portion of) one's cash holdings Comment from : Commando303X |
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Silver and Gold I keep at least 5 grand of each! Comment from : HeavyDutyRalph |
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"Diversification is for idiots" Charlie Munger Comment from : DB |
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Do I trust the guy worth $105 billion or do I trust the guy worth $17 billion, hmm Comment from : Pineapple Pizza |
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Both a right and both are wrong 🎉 Comment from : Susan Roche |
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My spouse and I are adding a variety of stocks/ETF to my present holdings for the long term, We've set aside $250k to start following inflation-indexed bonds and stocks of companies with solid cash flows, I believe it is a good time to capitalize on the market for long-term gains, but it wouldn't hurt to know means of actualizing short term Comment from : Jaz Broumn |
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Warren: Farmland may be in an asset bubble Is gold? Perhaps people will buy candy in the coming repression, larger than the last Maybe not It's not just inflation Comment from : webguyz1 |
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Only people like Buffett and Gates can afford farmland If you knew the truth they are stashing the gold supply in bunkers at the farms! Comment from : E M |
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"ADDING VALUE" is always the "Best Investment",,,, Gold is for when you do NOT want to work anymore (aka Add Value to anything) and you are just looking for "CAPITAL PRESERVATION" (not "Profits")br2 different ball games Comment from : WisdomTheater 3000 |
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I simply think one is talking on the long run, the other one is talking as a hedge in a specific moment of uncertainty and crisis, and as such used as an emergency So I don’t really see why they try to set the two positions of the gentlemen as opposite; they simply have different goals/means just my two bits worth Comment from : Hardstyle Life |
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Isn't Warran the guy who didn't invest in Apple LOL Comment from : Cholas |
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Gold dealers make $100,00 ever ounce they sell Over and over Go look at the price of gold in 2013 Comment from : Gray Elmore |
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Both of them are right Gold sucks up most of inflation if the government doesn't ban the value in the market However, real products are necessary while the hyperinflation period Comment from : Kay Yoon |
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Buffet believes in 'If you know what you are doing, you don't need to diversify (as much)' He might be right but there's probably only a handful of folks who can have that level of confidencebrMost of us need substantial diversification Comment from : Sandeep Menon |
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Gold is used in electronics, and the future is going to be heavily influenced from electronic devices I think I'll put at least a little into gold Comment from : King_Lio |
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Clearly some "entities" have been manipulating the price of gold, so long those manipulators are around, gold will continue to remain in the doldrum space Kill those manipulators gold would breathe again Comment from : HAU |
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Dalio is always enthusiatic about gold that has been a deader and gonner for years Why waste time talking about it over n over again? Comment from : HAU |
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Gold outperformed Bershire by about 4 per year in last 20 years It must be sad for him that non productive asset has a better return than slow growing Berkshire Farmland in 100 years will be turned into desert according to scientists and worth nothing He doesnt se any intrinsic value of gold Again wrong It has an intrinsic value and thats no politician can print it and thats why gold protects against devaluating of currency to pay ever increasing debt of governments for thousands years now Comment from : Pavol Kosík |
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Interesting to see Buffett to use the same uneducated arguments as most gold haters He should know better than regular crowd Price of gold was fixed until gold standard was abandoned so why he compares performance of stocks to regulated price of gold? Obviously he doesnt like gold but has half of the Berkshire portfolio in cash or T-bills now And guess what what? Gold is the best performing asset class in last 20 years with double the return of S&P 500 Gold outperforms stocks big when stocks are overpriced like now and when currency is beening devaluated like now Even last years when stocks had one of best bull markets in history gold has very close return to S&P 500 and if you index minus FAANG than gold beats index Comment from : Pavol Kosík |
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Gold is use for exchange, it's a short term assets Get it when the fiat money inflate, it means it's dying, gold will protect your money more safely than the fiat money But use gold to buy productive assets Of course you should not keep gold for long term but only in period of inflation and market crash Comment from : Jonathan Antoine |
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