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builderecks
Well, someone doesn't understand the technical limitations of nfc The nfc chip in phones only has a range of up to 2 centimeters Unless you keep your phone and wallet in the same pocket you have nothing to worry about chicken little
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Aaron Brown
Um why not turn off nfc when it's not in use Sounds like an easy solution to me lol I even turn off my 4g to save battery
Comment from : Aaron Brown


Evert van Ingen
I've seen this coming, stupid humans when will they learn
Comment from : Evert van Ingen


Jim Tassitano
This is a bunch of crap I am an engineer working with a company on secure NFC cards that use one time password transactions Even if your card number is stolen, which it is easy to do it is of absolutely no use Now all you uneducated types that don't work in the industry and have first hand knowledge will tell me I am wrong
Comment from : Jim Tassitano


Larry Finest
Great VideoVery informative  we all need to protect ourselves from creeps like that
Comment from : Larry Finest


Noneya
I knew it would happen sooner or later
Comment from : Noneya


skysiz
Just scratch the RFID chip from your card and you are set
Comment from : skysiz


Eddie Alvarez
Disable it when not in use That's it!!
Comment from : Eddie Alvarez


Zakary Timson
Its called nfc for a reason They make it look like a hacker can stand in a room and gather every ones info when in reality you have to put the back of a phone with in 1cm of the card
Comment from : Zakary Timson


Mitche23
You know you can disable NFC when you are not using it, plus NFC can be battery hog so disable it when you're not using it
Comment from : Mitche23


,|by010|,
never use paypas
Comment from : ,|by010|,


Drrck11
And this is why cash is king 
Comment from : Drrck11


Typtyphus t
it's not a virus if the app is fraudulent  
Comment from : Typtyphus t


FCM
Very helpful information
Comment from : FCM


Stoney Jonez
LMFAO, you act like Google invented NFC and has control over it somehow
Comment from : Stoney Jonez


JayNo2x
iphones dont have NFC lol
Comment from : JayNo2x


splat00n
NFC should become active when you want to use NFC, and operational only when the phone is inches from the device asking for money
Comment from : splat00n


Jani Siekkinen
In some cases the NFC antenna is in the battery in other cases it's in the case
Comment from : Jani Siekkinen


Christian Wilson
So if you get google wallet you don't even have to carry the credit cards
Comment from : Christian Wilson


Christian
322 million cell phones in use in the USA??? The US population is only 314 million LoL!!! Nice try, Apple!!!
Comment from : Christian


Id Stronghold
When your phone rings NFC becomes active
Comment from : Id Stronghold


Id Stronghold
This has nothing to do with Google Wallet It is the phone's NFC ability that can be used to scan other cards Also we have tested here and with the skimmer we built we can skim the Google Wallet credit card number and expiration date from it
Comment from : Id Stronghold


Id Stronghold
Not sure why I shouldn't approve You are correct we are showing people a vulnerability that the hackers know is out there But without the cardholder knowing this they can't protect themselves
Comment from : Id Stronghold


Snappy JayJay
this doesn't happen anymore Google encrypted everything and Wallet doesn't store any cards on your phone anymore
Comment from : Snappy JayJay


Ahlon
the creator of this video knows a lot about hacking and stuff so he is sharing the deed to the world i mean, how to avoid being a victim :D ( I DARE YOU UPLOADER APPROVE THIS COMMENT )
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Ahlon
the creator of this video knows a lot about hacking and stuff so he is sharing the deed to the world i mean, how to avoid being a victim :D
Comment from : Ahlon


erstam
If they steal your phone or your phone rings you will have to type in a pin to use it
Comment from : erstam


Id Stronghold
Not if you live on another continent and want to steal from Americans or Europeans etc They can sit at their desk in some third world country and watch the emails coming in with credit and debit card numbers from the US
Comment from : Id Stronghold


Cristian Weiser
Wow thats an issue lol
Comment from : Cristian Weiser


biohazard9907
last time i checked most people have their phones in one pocket and their wallets in the other
Comment from : biohazard9907


Drew Ardner
I always thought wireless credit cards were stupid in the first place I'll never get one, so I don't really need to worry about this
Comment from : Drew Ardner


erstam
Good thing my screen is always off when my phone is in my pocket (nrc only active with screen on) Plus None of my credit cards have NFC chips Only my phone lol
Comment from : erstam


Kevin Perez
how do u steal card info like that i dont get it n how do u no u got the info
Comment from : Kevin Perez


Phillyphil13139
Yeah, but with google wallet, i don't need to carry MY credit card i don't know about the unlucky souls around me and my phone though! haha
Comment from : Phillyphil13139


Naz Sakib
You cant do this with an iphone lol
Comment from : Naz Sakib


Skylin Megas
instead of complaining about it why not do something about it invest in encryption companies and urge them to help fix the problem
Comment from : Skylin Megas


Steven Callister
Can't agree more, at some point people need to take some kind of responsibility for their own security
Comment from : Steven Callister


Homemedrunkimtake
I Have Lookout (Free Version) But Not For Malware, Just In Case I Lose My Phone But Yes, An App Always Ask For Permission When Using A Feature
Comment from : Homemedrunkimtake


Id Stronghold
True but ask your friends At a recent government security conference 75 of the room when asked say they never have reviewed the permissions before installing an app To me and you we understand the importance but most people don't
Comment from : Id Stronghold


Hossam
0:45 lol is that guy from year 1450? wave it, magic wand? lol facepalm
Comment from : Hossam


Id Stronghold
Yes but this is your own phone getting near your own cards
Comment from : Id Stronghold


Id Stronghold
Many people carry their phone in their pocket with their wallet or credit cards Also many womens wallets have a cell phone holder that places it near enough to their cards Go to my waltaugust channel and watch the Trojan Horse Electronic Pickpocketing demo to see this actually happen
Comment from : Id Stronghold


THEHIPSTERALIENS s
I find it interesting that they consider it lazy to program malwarei cannot imagine it being the easiest/laziest thing to do
Comment from : THEHIPSTERALIENS s


Id Stronghold
Someone strolling through the park would likely not use a smartphone They would buy a reader such as a store uses and put it in a case like we did You can increase the range as well with an amplifier The phone problem is that it is your own phone with a bad app Many people place their phones near their cards often
Comment from : Id Stronghold


Id Stronghold
1 If you have your phone in your pocket next to your cards or your purse etc and the screen is off, when you get a call the phone wakes up and scans We tested this and it does scan the card on a phone call 2 While the phone needs to be close many womens wallets hold their phone next to their cards and many people place their phones in their pockets with the cards 3 This isn't true If the bad app is set up to handle nfc events it will launch and run even if no apps were running
Comment from : Id Stronghold


Id Stronghold
The nfc attack would normally be carried out by your own phone with an infected app So you have to notice anyone around you In some phones the antenna is attached to the battery cover not the battery
Comment from : Id Stronghold


Id Stronghold
As long as nfc is off it won't work At some point it may be possible for hackers to re-enable with your knowledge
Comment from : Id Stronghold


Geomancer
You're right, the iPhone just uses a broken AES implementation instead So much better
Comment from : Geomancer


Hysteria
does it work even if i make the nfc off on my phone?
Comment from : Hysteria


Muscleduck
This is complete BS Your phone has to be milimeters away from your creditcard to 'steal' the information They talk about it like you can take a stroll through the park and you'll have 200 new numbers, like somehow the smartphone would be able to reach cards meters away
Comment from : Muscleduck


Uejji
This doesn't specifically target Android, but they used an Android phone as the centerpiece, so a few reasons why this is wrong (in Android): 1 Android does not accept or send NFC data while the screen is off This is a system-wide privacy safeguard 2 NFC works at a range of centimeters (1-4cm in Android's case) This is "direct contact" level, not merely being nearby 3 3rd party applications must be open and in the foreground to use NFC, so you'd notice this very quickly
Comment from : Uejji


Uejji
I agree It's not magic, it's technology
Comment from : Uejji


Id Stronghold
Yes Definitely
Comment from : Id Stronghold


ThePeterOfficial
Can a NFC enabled phone without Google Wallet steal the credit card info?
Comment from : ThePeterOfficial


Alex Brnjac
Not an apple fanboy, but an iPhone would never get hacked like this
Comment from : Alex Brnjac


Jonathan Lunt
At least 100 hackers just watched this video and decided on their plans for this weekend
Comment from : Jonathan Lunt


mehran davachi
well before installing any app on google play read what permissions it needs, plus dont install anything from web if u are not 100 sure what it is plus make a pin for your google wallet and turn nfc off when u dont use it plus 100 other ways to bullet proof yourself dont scare ppl with these videos yes if you dont secure yourself ull get robbed like if you dont lock your cars door 60 chance of it getting robbed so F****ing lock it
Comment from : mehran davachi


JoeParkerPoe
What kind of phone is that? Are you sure it's not painted brick?
Comment from : JoeParkerPoe


Xtrem
"magically opens for you" the homosapiain who came back in time said the same thing why not use words such as "automatically"
Comment from : Xtrem


Id Stronghold
Nfc does work through cloth and virus protection apps are not nfc aware See youtub waltaugust channel for the trojan demo which shows it working through cloth
Comment from : Id Stronghold


InuYashaBandicoot
u sound just like the people who try to virus phones The vid's point is very clear and more modern that you are - use technology with care Moving forward without making sure the user is safe, is actually what you're doing The video is telling us to ditch new cards, because, NEWSFLASH - new DOESNT MEAN better And he's recommending to install an antivirus How can that be unserious? You sound to me like a tech geek that wont listen to the flaws of his new tech, NFC relly dude, stop that
Comment from : InuYashaBandicoot


Id Stronghold
sorry should have said 4/4G My two phones the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus were enabled when I got the phone I didn't have to turn it on The default was on
Comment from : Id Stronghold


Josh
See if you would have specified Nexus S 4G we wouldn't have had a miscommunication - The Nexus S 4G was pushed more than the Nexus S, but it was also pushed more on the nation's third largest carrier - still, the Nexus S 4G did sell more than the unlocked Nexus S, I'll give you that However, if people don't know what NFC is, why would they bother to turn it on?
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Id Stronghold
Here the Nexus S was a Sprint phone at Best Buy They did sell it unlocked as well but they preferred it as a Sprint phone I agree on most people having no idea on NFC and that is the point Whether they know their phone contains it or not it can still be used by hackers to target their cards that the phone gets next to
Comment from : Id Stronghold


Josh
Let's be honest - no one outside of hardcore users even use NFC for sharing contacts or with NFC tags I'd be willing to bet most people that have a Galaxy Nexus don't even know what NFC is or what it does, or that it's even on their phones Whichever Best Buys you go to must show more love for the Nexus S than Chicago, because I never saw a single poster for it Just a little phone sitting on the stand under the rarely there "unlocked phones" section
Comment from : Josh


Id Stronghold
There are still several other NFC uses on the Galaxy Nexus such as smart posters and sending contacts to another NFC phone The Nexus S was definitely heavily pushed at the Best Buy's I went to They even had floor standing displays that were 6 feet tall for months pumping the Nexus S
Comment from : Id Stronghold


Josh
In the sense that you can't use it with anything since there are no mobile payment options for the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, it is locked down There's really no point to even having it on if you have a Verizon Galaxy Nexus The Nexus S was never "heavily pushed" at Best Buy, and even if it was it is such a niche device
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Id Stronghold
NFC on Galaxy Nexus is definitively not locked I own one and our test with trojan software found it easily vulnurable The Nexus S was heavily pushed at BestBuy starting Mother's Day 2011
Comment from : Id Stronghold


Josh
I can *maybe* believe the Galaxy Nexus has sold millions in the US, but the NFC feature is still locked down because Verizon hasn't released their own NFC payment system yet The Nexus S, not so much It wasn't even commercially available in AT&T or T-Mobile stores You could only buy it at Best Buy, unlocked
Comment from : Josh


Id Stronghold
Yes some of these are in Europe etc but they have contactless cards as well that are vulnerable In the US the two biggest ones are the Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus which alone have sold millions
Comment from : Id Stronghold


Josh
The One X, Nexus S, and the last seven phones you can't buy in the US The Galaxy Note that has NFC has locked NFC in the US, so does the One XL The Galaxy SIII isn't released in the US either
Comment from : Josh


Id Stronghold
Probably around 1-2 as of late 2011 and rising fast Several million have already shipped Here is a partial list More at wikipedia under nfc handsets Android HTC Amaze 4G HTC Evo 4G LTE HTC One X HTC One XL Nexus S Google Nexus S 4G Samsung Galaxy S III Samsung Galaxy S II (not all versions) Samsung Galaxy Note (not all versions) Galaxy Nexus Huawei Sonic T20 Huawei Sonic (U8650NFC-1) Sony Xperia S Sony Xperia P Sony Xperia SOLA Turkcell T20 Turkcell T11
Comment from : Id Stronghold


Id Stronghold
Yes but if your own phone is infected and you are putting it in your pocket or purse with your wallet it is near enough Also many womens pursed now have spots for your cell phone
Comment from : Id Stronghold


Josh
Do you know what of those 320 million phones have NFC is? Not to mention that a phone without NFC can NOT do this
Comment from : Josh


Travis Stanley
WOWIt's called NEAR Field CommunicationsI EMPHASIZE THE WORD "NEAR"You literally have to be touching stuff together for the info to beam
Comment from : Travis Stanley


Id Stronghold
And also I have never owned a mac or an iPhone ever I like Android much better (sorry Apple) I have a Xoom, Galaxy Nexus, and Nexus S All Android
Comment from : Id Stronghold


Id Stronghold
Where your incorrect is that an app that uses NFC and also uses smtp email is not considered a virus You will find an app up there now call "The Electronic Pickpocket" While we disabled the ability to view the entire credit card number so as not to help theives, we were able to create an app publisher account and have it available for download within about 30 minutes It is still there now
Comment from : Id Stronghold


Id Stronghold
The virus protection does not currently catch apps that use NFC The virus protection will help for other viruses For Google Wallet data make sure you set the timeout as short as possible This is how long the card can be scanned after entering your pin number You can set it from 1 to 30 minutes Also please read the news stories about the ability to hack the pin number on Google Wallet as well
Comment from : Id Stronghold


Qew aRe
so the way around the credit card thing is not getting a wireless one but is he saying there is no way around them stealing Ur info for Google wallet? Or does the virus check stop all that
Comment from : Qew aRe


Fabio Zeta
fantastic video,thanks
Comment from : Fabio Zeta


thebaseballplaya25
i can't take any video like this seriously they are trying to talk about up and coming technology like NFC while showing a clip of aol saying "You've Got Mail!" its like the video was made for the same kind of people that think technology is the devil's work or something and have just started using email just another way to attempt to strike fear in people, something the media like to think it excels at
Comment from : thebaseballplaya25


Robert Monterroso
faillllllll
Comment from : Robert Monterroso


Manny Morales
I second that
Comment from : Manny Morales


corrections
fud
Comment from : corrections


zores2
cool vid, and good solution, just dont have a wireless credit card
Comment from : zores2



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